that would be more accurate than a dyno test on a tire, because there are a 
lot of road variables, including parachute factor, weight split between 
tires.  My go-fast bike will lunge up grades in tall gears (Open Paves) 
with a fairly gentle mash, and I would want a lower gear and spin on a 
different bike.  And yes, it's all about enjoying the ride.  Back to the 
Open Paves, they are a remarkably comfortable ride for 95 psi 27mm - they 
just don't last long, I get 600 mi from a rear.  

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 2:06:59 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Would a suitable way of measuring this be testing tires with a power 
> meter? 
>
> IE: Same power output on the same stretch of road with the same wind 
> conditions, then compare speed between tires? 
>
> Or then again, who cares. Ride what makes you feel good :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I don't believe that this is nearly as true as claimed. At any rate, it 
>> certainly isn't my experience, which is instead ease of maintaining a given 
>> cadence in given conditions in given gears. In fact, my own "sense" of 
>> speed is much more tied to smoothness than vibration -- Elk Passes, Parigi 
>> Roubaix, F Freds, etc feel fast in part because they *don't* vibrate.
>>
>> [Close parenthesis.]
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> but most riders think the feel of road vibration = speed, hence the 
>>> desire to pump to max rated pressure.  I was specifically talking about two 
>>> different tires but both running well below rated pressure - no vibration 
>>> whatsoever and only one of them giving occasional shock - and yes, you know 
>>> for sure when you're trying to chase a tandem with two healthy riders.  
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