Re: (1) - The Evening Constitutional is a fantastic idea and one that I'm 
going to steal/adopt as soon as we can leave our son in the house alone. As 
far as comfort is concerned, I wouldn't sweat it - he's the one who has to 
be comfortable on his bike. If I had to venture a guess I'd point at the 
handlebars, but it really doesn't seem like a big deal.

Re: (2) - My wife's Clementine has a box from http://www.gothamcargo.com/ 
on it. It mounted easily, and it has a lot of color and character, but I'm 
not very impressed with the quality of construction. Operationally fine so 
far, but I just keep waiting for it to break. Maybe it won't, and it just 
feels light because it's light. But if I were doing it today and didn't 
care about shiny colors, I'd probably shop for a vintage soda bottle crate 
on Ebay. They're inexpensive, very sturdy, and have loads of character. 
Shellac it, mount it on a porteur type rack, and collect admiring glances.

Re: (3) - I am not a fan of the Riv stock Clem/Clementine build. At all. 
Bought my wife a beautiful Clementine and we have since replaced perhaps 
half of the total parts because of issues with cockpit (lack of) comfort 
and ghost shifting. The stock bars were not angle-adjustable and were too 
wide for her shoulders, and the stock shifters, cassette, and chain did not 
play nicely together even after adjusting and re-adjusting shift cable 
tension. We've replaced the chain and cassette and shifters with Shimano 
parts (lowest-price 11-32 cassette and chain, 8-speed Ultegra shifters in 
VO thumb adapters), and it's working a lot better now. 

Cheers, and happy riding on your nearly-matching bikes! 

/Jeremy


On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 2:20:18 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> This post is a collection of questions and thoughts. I'm trying to 
> consolidate into just the one post, so sorry if it seems disjointed - I 
> thought maybe one post would be preferable to three.
>
> 1. First question: Why does my  6 ft husband's 52 cm Clem seem too small 
> and confined to me, who is 5'6"?
>
> You may remember my zany husband who got a Clem around Christmastime. It 
> was a memorable experience, let me tell you. He isn't Rivy at all, so this 
> was quite the leap for him, and he settled on "matching" his bike to mine 
> more than any other inspiration. We've been having a wonderful time with 
> our bikes, not many lengthy rides, but rather, we do this great thing he 
> calls "Our Evening Constitutional." Every night after dinner, we put on our 
> matching Keens, our matching RayBans, and we take our Rivendell bikes and 
> cruise around the neighborhood and through the park at our leisure. Our 
> kids are big enough to stay home, and we feel like we are really getting 
> away with something. We chat, we laugh, we congratulate ourselves on our 
> fantastic bikes and reflect on 12 years of marriage. This is the kind of 
> date I recommend. 
>
> But I digress.
>
> One night we decided to switch bikes. I'd made some minor adjustments to 
> his saddle and bars for him and wanted to test them. Secondly, I wanted to 
> gaze upon my lovely Betty Foy while he rode it. (You never get to 
> appreciate how great your own bike looks when you're on it!) I was really 
> expecting his bike to be large and unwieldy but I was shocked to discover 
> it felt cramped! I felt like the bars were squirrely, and that my butt 
> should be way farther back. I wanted to be more stretched out. Now, I have 
> albatross bars and he has whatever the Clems came with, but how can it make 
> that much difference? 
>
> I told him I didn't like his "sit up and beg" positioning. He retorted, 
> "It is not. It's the 'seated command' position." Then I rolled my eyes. 
>
> I tried grabbing his bars so I was more stretched out. No improvement. His 
> sprung Brooks is pushed all the way back on its rails. Is this how the Clem 
> is supposed to feel? Am I just too used to the Betty Foy? I really thought 
> loooonnnnggg chainstays would make a huge difference, but there I was - 
> cramped. I knew if I came to you, you all would tell me why. 
>
> I felt so disappointed because I was hoping his bike would be as good/even 
> better than mine. The way I see it, my bike is perfect. I feel like the 
> bike is part of ME. I get on it and there's nothing I could do to make it 
> more comfortable. I don't even think about comfort. I fret a little about 
> the dings in the paint and wish I had the Big Back Rack to match my Big 
> Front Rack, and I wish that I had the gray medium Saddleback instead of the 
> tan - all stupid cosmetic stuff. But I couldn't be happy on his bike, and 
> that seems odd to me. Rivendells are comfortable and useful. It's their 
> trademark; what am I missing? My husband is not a bike person, so he's just 
> happy cruising around and looking alike. He thinks his bike feels fine, but 
> he calls mine "more plush." He'll happily roll along in his "seated 
> command" position regardless of what we say here, but I'm hoping you'll 
> have some rationale. 
>
> 2. It's his birthday next week. Do you remember his obsession with getting 
> a bamboo crate for the front of his Clem? Well, he ordered one from the 
> company Bamboobee on Amazon. They said it would be here anywhere in a 4 
> week timeframe. That timeframe came and went and after a lot of 
> back-and-forth, I was just refunded my money. I want to get him a rack and 
> different crate for his birthday. I have no idea what front rack the Clem 
> takes. Who can say, and does anyone have one for sale on the list? He has 
> the mousetrap rack on the back.
>
> Also, does anyone have a recommendation for a crate? He loved that the 
> Bamboobee looked modern and had a built in cup holder. He envisions himself 
> riding his Clem with this contraption and a handlebar speaker on the beach. 
> He lives in the desert.
>
> 3. His gears ghost shift. And there's lots of chatter in his gears. Is it 
> possible the REI mechanic didn't install the gearing correctly? Do they 
> need adjustment after a while? 
>
> Lastly, I've included a couple photos. Thanks so much for reading and 
> lending me your expertise. 
> Grateful!
> Leah
>
> https://flic.kr/p/GVbyb9
> https://flic.kr/p/DNo3w6
>
>

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