Bill, I think the issue is that *because they deteriorate with exposure
to the elements* and *because a failure of a loaded rack or basket could
conceivably land you in deep kimshie,* zip ties which may be *perfectly
satisfactory for a quick temporary expedient solution* may be *an
inappropriate **long-term solution.* That's what I've said and that's
what's quoted down below. Once again, it has nothing to do with whether
zip ties are expensive or not; if they were artisinally curated three
bucks each zip ties then in my opinion for whatever that's worth they
would cease to be a "cheap" hack, but would certainly continue to be a
hack.
On 06/07/2016 03:01 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
masmojo
I had a feeling you didn't mean it. I think it's great to hand out
approval liberally. It's the disapproval that you should be really
careful with. If you meant it as a joke, I accept that.
I agree that my Joe Appaloosa was very expensive and 8 zipties are
very inexpensive. I understand the opinion that the cost of 8 zipties
is too low to deserve being places on a Joe Appaloosa. It makes me
want to go into business artisinally curating zipties, and selling
them for $3 apiece. Then it will be sufficiently expensive to deserve
placement on a $3000 bicycle. I understand the opinion that expensive
bikes shouldn't have any inexpensive things on them. I respectfully
disagree with that opinion. If the features are appropriate, the cost
is what it is. I'll pay a LOT for the right features, and I'll pay a
little if cheap parts have the right features.
Bill
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
Yeah, people use zip ties for all kinds of things and I continue
to condone that practice ( oh crap I did it again!). Actually,
Bill I used that language intentionally, because I thought it
humorous. As if my condoning anything meant squat to anybody
which I am sure it doesn't! My sense of humor is rather dry &
droll at the same time, sadly.
Thay said zip ties are a cheap hack, always have been & always
will be. No harm in that, but I personally feel*thats not
acceptable to me as a long term solution,* especially in holding
on a basket *for numerous years. * Now, maybe you are using zip
ties as a sort of camouflage!? Making the bike look trashy by
festooning it with zip ties, pieces of twine, a copious number of
frame stickers, etc. can be a very effective theft deterrent; in
which case I applaud the individuals ingenuity! But, at the end of
the day it seems like antithema or insult to do this to a very
beautiful & expensive bike.
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