How to choose the right cable tie?
/*UV and weather resistant cable ties*//
//All polymers including polyamides (nylons) used for the production
of cable ties are sensitive to UV radiation. The most common
additive used for protecting polyamides from UV radiation is carbon
powder commonly known as “carbon black”. *Standard natural coloured
cable ties have low resistance to UV radiation and therefore are not
suggested for outdoor applications.*/
/*Black cable ties *are always manufactured with additional “carbon
black”. As a result, they have improved weather and UV resistance
and are better suited for outdoor applications and are approved
against ISO 4892 *for 150 hours (approx. 3 years) of QUV-B radiation
exposure.*/
*/For long term exposure to extreme weather conditions and UV,
weather resistant cable ties should be used. The weather resistant
cable ties are made with compounds that include special additives to
provide extra UV and weather resistance are approved against ISO
4892 for 600 hours (approx. 10 years) of QUV-B radiation exposure./*
https://www.pmgcompanyonline.com/products/other-products/cable-tie-selection/
When it comes to zip ties, YMMV. Choose wisely.
On 06/07/2016 02:05 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Masmojo,
You are entitled to not-use zipties whenever you choose to not-use
them. To paraphrase Yogi Berra: "If people don't want to use
zipties, nobody's going to stop them". Link to original Yogi Berra
quote <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yogiberra447736.html>
The place you or Anton lose me is when you tell other people to stop
using something that they like using. Maybe you and Anton just didn't
mean what you said, but when you said "I don't condone it" and Anton
said "please please don't use zipties", that's where I politely and
respectfully recommend that you mind your own business. On these
boards, it's perfectly fine to say that you use something and why you
like it. It's perfectly fine to say why you don't use something.
It's fine to say "I don't recommend using such and such and here's
why". It's fine to say "I won't use that" and not give any reason.
But, when you tell people that you don't condone me using something,
or when Anton begs me to stop using something that I like, I say "stay
in your lane". I will use what I like. If you want to educate me
about things that I'm overlooking because you want me to change my
mind about zipties, then by all means go ahead and educate me. I
reject the assertion that zipties are solely intended for temporary
applications. People use zipties for cable management on their solar
panels for 20 years plus. They don't die from UV, they don't fail,
and that's not temporary. If your only reason is you think zipties on
a Rivendell is a lowbrow hack, I already know about that reason. If
you want to recommend another way for me to attach my Wald Basket to
my Nitto Rack that is cheaper, lighter, stronger, easier to install,
easier to remove and similarly recyclable, then by all means, educate
me. I'm not receptive to people telling me to stop using a product
with no compelling reason.
On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 7:16:00 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
Two things
First zip ties are brilliant & were it a situation of putting the
basket on for several weeks or months even & taking it off again I
would fully endorse and condone using them, BUT if it's a basket
that'll be on there for 5 years! NO! And I don't think there's
anything Rivendellish about it. Quick easy fixes are intended to
be temporary in nature like the Bandaid or the rubber band.
Secondly, I notice that very fine Mercian, lacks braze-ons for
routing the brake cable!!!! Oh my!!! ;-) but, at least no zip ties!
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