Fascinating, Richard. Thank you. The longer chain stay Hunqapillar is one 
of the things I've wondered about. That makes perfect sense, and matches 
what I've seen my lassies do when they ride through things on their 
Clementines. I couldn't tell how much was long chain stays and how much was 
they are still wee compared to the frame. Some of both I suspect. Not 
having the ability to pop the front wheel over rocks and roots with 
relative ease (even with a small front load) would drive me nuts 
(admittedly a trip I could crawl rather than drive. Sardonic grin.). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:19:45 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> On road they are fine. Very laid back feeling, smooth and what others 
> mentioned. Off road I found I didn't like them so much especially if paired 
> with a long top tube and non swept back bars. My impression was it made it 
> to hard to get the front wheel up to go over obstacles so I ended up 
> plowing through stuff and it had the reverse effect of esentially making 
> the ride rougher...just my .02 impressions based off a long CS proto 
> hunqapillar.
>

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