FWIW, from what I understand the difference between a made to order and full custom is the specific builder. Wford is built by hand but in accordance to whatever their method of choosing who builds what is. They sell customs themselves for much more $ themselves so I would think these would be built by their best builders and devote the most time to in detail and finishig. The made for Riv models would get that attentions, so while made by a custom builder the level of detail and finish wouldn't be there. I have seen first hand and have heard enough not to be overly impressed with their quality of such frames.
As for what to keep, voting here while fun and all hopefully has no influence on GP's decisions. Making decisions to makes cuts, to deny oneself the inherent sense of freedom we all are, has no good outcomes ever. We may think this or that, but the heart is too pure to ever be reasoned and rationed with and we all know it, but few live it. Heck, I say design and ride what you really love , the heart never misleads or displeases. The customers will always be there to appreciate the beauty and freedom their bicycle represents to them, and isn't this what life is all about, living your inherent freedom ? No, we cannot we lose it or even give it awày, even if we try, as we are who and what we are and nothing can change this. That is all I have to say about that , cheer-i-O ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.