This is all very good info! Trying to piece it all together...seems best
place to start is with the Serial Number...but, where is the Serial Number?
I looked under the bottom bracket, all that found is RIVENDELL engraved...

Here is what I know:

1) Seems, so far, the 3 cage bosses are only on Toyo builds (based on this
tiny sample, mine should be built at WF as I only have bosses on seat tube
and top of down tube)

2) I also see reference to the Toyo Blue (darker) and the WF Blue
(lighter)...I certainly have the darker.( Based on this tiny sample, mine
should be built by Toyo.)

3) I als read (speculated) that Toyo made all 650 frames and WF made all 700
frames...My frame is a 700cc, 57cm. (based on this tiny sample, mine should
be built at WF)

I would call Riv, but without a serial number, I may not have too much to go
by...

Thanks for all of the info thus far...

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:01 PM, newenglandbike <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am not positive that the Rivendell bikes always follow this-   but I
> think the Waterford frames have serial numbers that begin with a
> single letter, from [A-M] (excluding 'I') followed by 5 digits.    The
> letter represents the month it was made, from A=January to M=December,
> with no letter 'I'.  The first two digits are the year and the last
> three are the frame number for that month:
>
> http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/company/para_dating.php
>
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2:22 pm, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote:
> > on 1/11/10 10:56 AM, Anthony (57cm AHH) at [email protected]
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Is there any way to tell if my AHH was made at Toyo or Waterford?
> >
> > > I 'heard' if there are only 2 mounts for water bottles, then it is
> > > Waterford. If there are 3 mounts, the 3rd underneath, it is from
> > > Toyo...
> >
> > > Is this accurate? Are there any other identifiers?
> >
> > Hadn't heard that.
> >
> > As a single data point (with four variables), my Hilsen is Toyo-built,
> was a
> > 59, has a four number place serial number that starts "AH", and has
> bottom
> > of the downtube bottle bosses.
> >
> > - Jim
> >
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