Thanks Joe. Good point and yes I am considered a B17 or other Brooks 
leather model. I am also considering a SA or a Rivet Diablo.

On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 8:45:14 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Did you try these after giving up on leather saddles? I ask because I can 
> only ride B17. I tried a C17 for a month to take advantage of the longer 
> rails, lighter weight and weatherproofness, but it was a torture rack. Back 
> to leather for me. 

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