I've seen many opinions on what constitutes a "Rivish" bike and my own 
thoughts have varied over the years.  At this point, I would say that a 
durable, practical, versatile and comfortable bike ridden with a "Just 
Ride" attitude, is "Rivish".  

I can't quite convince myself that a carbon bike is Rivish and I struggle a 
bit with even aluminum.  I tend to agree with Grant that a bike should have 
a lifespan measured in decades, rather than years.   I would never consider 
a non-steel bike that I personally own to be "Rivish" but I wouldn't argue 
that someone else's non-steel bike isn't "Rivish".  




On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 3:12:47 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I was at Riv HQ yesterday and had a longish chat with several of the 
> staff.  Will, Corey, Roman, Mark, and I waved hi to Vince.  They had been 
> paying attention to my 10x200 thing, and we talked a little bit about that, 
> and we also talked about the Marin Mountains 200k that had been a big part 
> of the focus of my training.  That ride was scheduled for Oct 14, but got 
> moved to the 28th because of the fires, so it's just a few days away.  
> I was telling Will about the bike I'm going to be using, with it's carbon 
> fiber shock fork and disc brakes.  Here's a link to the photo for those who 
> didn't see it before:
>
> NINER 
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-llmdKzgCGpk/WbX3_ZeZ30I/AAAAAAAADko/H_IjsGJekxEpEKa_XDTbIghXx2dbxmfCACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_2134.JPG>
>
> I made the comment to Will that it's probably my least Rivvish bike, 
> meaning that it's aluminum, with a carbon shock fork, with disc brakes, 
> etc.  It's 'modern'.  It's 'contemporary', etc.  Will disagreed.  Will said 
> he thinks it is totally Rivvish, because I've considered every part on the 
> bike, and decided on what will work for me, with zero consideration about 
> what others expect me to run.  This fork works for me, so I'm running it.  
> I want shifters on the steertube, so I made a shifter mount.  I think 
> hydraulic discs are the best, so I'm running them.  I think brifters are 
> lame, so I'm not running them.  I want 650B wheels on a Niner, so there.  I 
> want a dynamo hub, even though I'm running 15mm through axle.  I 
> commissioned a custom lamp mount.  Etc etc. The upshot is that "being 
> Rivvish" does not mean blindly following Riv's style. It means freeing 
> yourself from style-following.  
>
> Since Will is young, pale and bald, I thought we should paraphrase 
> spoon-boy
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-awoxFUnYF2o/WfDvFhQTdcI/AAAAAAAADqI/VZqZEFU-1QwZmA3H-hW4iJypcPVxvaUagCLcBGAs/s1600/spoonboy.jpg>
>
> Do not try and bend the *style*, that's impossible. Instead, only try to 
> realize the truth...*there is no style*. Then you'll see that it is not 
> the *style* that bends, it is only yourself.
>
>

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