I will surely give him a call.  I have a feeling the 61 is going to be the 
way to go.  Every time I find a frame that I think will work for me stack 
and reach wise I go back to thinking, why am I looking around when the 
Roadini already exists.  It is so ridiculous that such a simple steel road 
bike with standard threadings and parts can be so outside the box for 
sizing these days.  And when I find something in the price range of the 
Roadini, like the barrage of used titanium road frames on eBay, I come back 
to three main points:

1  Max clearance on most of those is at best, a 28, which is nothing on the 
Roadini.

2.  I will really be pushing the limits of what I want for stack and reach 
and compromising perhaps the most important aspect of a bike for me these 
days, comfort.  Seems kind of silly.

3.  I am not going to crit race anytime soon.  Nuff said.

The BMC road disc is pretty sweet.  Not opposed to discs at all, but 
honestly, it still doesn't have the all day stack and reach comfort of the 
Roadini.  Seems like I keep coming back to that.  I've owned enough bikes 
over the years to know that I've been on too many ill fitting bikes to make 
that compromise again.  

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