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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Steven Sweedler <sweed...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Has the wheel size been announced, 650 B for smaller frames and 700C for > larger, or is 26” (559) a possiblilty? Steve > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:28 PM Grant Petersen <grant6...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> aside from whatever real or imagined benefits there are to riders, the >> benefits of carbon and threadless to manufacturers are real and as concrete >> as concrete. Threadless forks eliminate a HUGE ongoing hassle and storage >> problem of stocking replacements for different sized frames. The fact that >> it helps manufacturers is a GOOD thing, but *that* is why they were so >> wholly instantly adopted. Going to carbon fiber piggybacked on that by >> offering a perceived cool-factor fork that flaunted its material and saved >> bike manufacturers from having to stock color-matches for their bikes every >> year. A third benefit to manufacturers is that forks are a PITA to make. >> There isn't a frame builder in the world who likes making forks (I have not >> surveyed them all, I've just never heard of one, and the fact that so many >> offer carbon forks as standard supports this "theory.") Forks are >> difficult and intolerant of even slight goofs. If a frame is slightly out >> of alignment, you'll never know by casual observation (need measuring >> tools) and it probably won't matter in the ride. (Our frames are aligned >> during the process of building and checked at the end, and I've watched >> them do it.) It depends where it's out of alignment, but if you think most >> of the bikes in the world are perfectly aligned, o my. But when a fork is >> out of alignment, it's way more visually obvious, because the tire gap is >> different. >> Any one of the points I'm trying to make--I'm making them quickly and >> without any nuance or noting other important details in the discussion--but >> they're honestly fundamentally true. Our Taiwan frame builders farm out the >> forks. Artisinal custom builders for the most part prefer to (I know there >> are exceptions). >> It's easy-er for me here at RIvendell with our relatively low volume to >> stock crash replacement forks forks, but even when we order two extra per >> size per color, as models and colors change, it doesn't take too many years >> to accumulate 200 forks. At Bstone, we had --- thousands? At least a >> thousand. We tossed them when we closed. I think one of the guys gathered >> up some MB forks and maybe a few RBs, but basically, they were vamooshed. >> There's no market for a Regulus brown fork for a 23-inch frame, or any of >> the others. >> >> I'm not picking on masmojo. He (or she?) is right--that stuff can work >> fine. It's when it doesn't that things get scary, and when you consider >> that carbon doesn't age well, there's still a good reason to avoid it. >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:26 AM, masmojo <masm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> I certainly don't endorse change for the sake of change, but if >>> something works, it's better or solves a problem; I'll embrace it >>> eventually, maybe begrudgingly, but I will & my enthusiasm & conviction >>> will grow from there. >>> I guess about the time I turned 50, I reaffirmed my conviction to keep >>> my mind open & question any preferences or prejudices I might have. >>> Didn't like Carbon fiber, but as these things go, most road bikes these >>> days have Carbon Fiber forks; so it was kind of forced on me. (I also got >>> carbon fiber cranks & handlebars in the deal🙄) Well, guess what? They work >>> fine, better than fine really. Will, I make a point of buying CF in the >>> future? Hmmmmmm, I doubt it, but my resistance has been weakened. >>> Just sayin, there's a reason for everything. >>> >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>> topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bZskFzjF_I4/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Steven Sweedler > Plymouth, New Hampshire > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bZskFzjF_I4/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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