Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly
stout tubing?  Or  does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from
other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh
something, right? ;)

> 
> a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs.  i get to see a lot of his cx
> bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.*   riding tubies at 30psi
> helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff
> - but still, i think it's proof that a high quality lightweight steel
> bike need not be relegated to paved roads/smoothish surfaces.


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