Ian, your post was a good reminder for me to re-view this Jones plus video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMkQ7z9Gi7c>, the first 4 min of which includes the explanation of exactly what you referenced ... how long wheelbase doesn't have to mean long chainstays, and how Jeff designed the bike to work well for both descending and climbing, but always balanced over the legs, sitting and standing. Some stat's of the plus, which begins around 1:47 in the video:
HT angle: 67.5 deg ST angle: 71 deg Offset: 7.6cm Chainstay: 19"/48.26cm I couldn't find wheelbase stat's on the Jones site, but Dirt Rag's review states the LWB's wb is 47.4" / 120.4cm. I'm looking fwd to learning Gus's spec's. Tom On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:48:25 AM UTC-4, ian m wrote: > > I had imagined the possibility of a Riv off-roader replacing my current > Clem, as riding off road is 95% of my riding now, but this bike repeats the > same design flaw as the Clem. Jones Bikes prove that you can have a huge > wheelbase for an awesomely stable ride on a Mtn bike, but it shouldn't come > from long chainstays. Putting the back wheel so far behind the rider's mass > increases the difficulty in raising the front end, especially while riding > uphill. While that may seem superfluous for perfectly manicured California > trails, it's a necessity for riding off road in other places. Unless that > seat tube is far slacker than the Clem's I think it would be a bear to > handle on a rocky, rooty uphill. I am jealous of that pump peg tho > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
