I don't claim to "know", but I suspect it has to do with the Clem now being considered part of the Hillibike stable. My crude measurements on a new 52 compared to the numbers in the geometry chart on the frame page are: Effective top tube has increased 3 cm. (61 to 64), front center by 7 cm. (65.3 to 72+), chain stay by 2.5 cm. (52 to 54.5). Garth, is that in the ballpark of what Will told you? David
On Saturday, November 9, 2019 at 10:05:03 AM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Ian - thank you! I hope my experience mirrors yours. I’m working on it! > > Garth, thank you for confirming the differences I suspected! I did order a > new stem; I think it’s a Nitto Technomic 90 mm, and I’m really hoping that > brings the bars sufficiently closer. I think the rest of the bike geometry > will be fine, or at least I’ll make myself decide that it is. It’s a > beautiful bike. > > I am very curious why Grant decided to change the geometry. I thought the > Clementine was perfect, though maybe a bit stout. Maybe someone on here > knows. I do think the old geometry was better for women, as we tend to be > longer in the legs and shorter in the torso (definitely true of me). I miss > seeing Clementine on the frame, too. > > Leah > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 9, 2019, at 2:48 AM, Garth <gar...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > Yes they are considerably different Leah in that they are as you found > out, considerably longer in the front overall. I noticed it in the first > email photo of Grants new blue 59cm Clem-L(he formerly rode a 52) and > called Will @ Riv to get the specs and that confirmed it. While I knew that > would be great for someone tall like myself, and prefers a more leaning > forward position, other people who have Clems may not like it without some > re-adjustments. > > > I can't tell what length/height stem you have, but obviously one that > offers a shorter *overall *reach will help. The shortness can be done > with various angle and lengths, meaning a 80mm stem that rises say 25 > degrees(above flat level) like a Dirt Drop will have a shorter overall > reach(flat level) than one that lowers by 17 degrees, like a Tallux, at the > same bar height. > > > > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/a7S9XSpS5rs/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7c4a361-e8cb-443c-b3cd-f2c6febc235c%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7c4a361-e8cb-443c-b3cd-f2c6febc235c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/39eb16a2-1ca6-4024-9389-39ec7d3c5182%40googlegroups.com.
