I love Velocity rims and own both models you mentioned. Weight was never a factor in my choice since all of my Rivs are already heavy. A few ounces won't make a difference for me. I have an Appaloosa that I use for extended tours and overnight camping trips, a Sam Hillborne that is my roadish bike and a Clem H that is yet to be built. I have Quills on the Sam and Cliffhangers for the Joe. Once the Clem is finished it will have Cliffhangers.
I am a tubeless convert and find that both rims set up very well for tubeless. I also believe in going with the widest rim that makes sense. For the Joe my goal was to have sturdy rims that could withstand the additional weight that I intended to carry and the occasional off road use. I want to ride the widest tire I can on this bike and still fit fenders. For me this is a 48mm tire. The Cliffhangers are perfect for this bike.. The Quills are on the Sam. The widest tire I plan on using with this bike is a 38mm. Mine is the sidepull version of the Sam and I am running Paul Racers. I have tried as wide as 40mm but I find that a 38mm is what I prefer the most. The Quills are perfect for my Sam. They are still pretty wide and make for a very sturdy wheel that I am comfortable riding both on pavement and dirt. For my Clem I am building it up as a analog mountain bike. For this application, at least as far as I am concerned, the only choice is the Cliffhanger. I have a pair that I will build up over the next couple of weeks. When they are done I am going to run a 2.25 knobbie tread and want the wide rim to maximize the amount of tread that makes contact with the ground. FWIW I would recommend the Cliffhanger for your Atlantis. On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 9:50:04 PM UTC-5, tc wrote: > > I now have a 62 MIT Atlantis frame. I'm gonna order a new Rich-built > wheelset for it. Velocity Quill? Cliffhanger? > > I'm leaning toward Quill because they fit a wider range of tires, esp. > narrower ones in case I want to go crazy and fender it. Also, Quills are > lighter by a pound, seem to be strong enough (I'm not gonna tour with heavy > loads). Jan's article, "Myth 18: Wide Tires Need Wide Rims > <https://www.renehersecycles.com/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims/>" > started me on this path. A chart in that article says a 21mm inside width > (what the Quill has) should be able to handle a 64mm ((!) tire ... though > Velocity recommends up to 47...which seems very conservative to me. I'm > running Dyads and 2.1 Nano's on my Toyo Atlantis...super combination. > > I won't be putting a 64 tire on a Quill, but will think strongly about the > 55 Antelope Hills. Also have some 29x2 G-One Speeds to consider. > > Anyone have any experience with Quills? > > Thanks, > Tom > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/547cb9ef-7bea-42b7-98a7-2c55afde23cf%40googlegroups.com.
