On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Eric > > I don't think anyone should or would fault you for not wanting to > follow through on buying a bike that changed into something you don't > like. > > Personally, the only thing you said that I thought was a bit unfair > was the statement that the bike seemed like a 'half-hearted copy' of > another bike. I don't know Grant or Keven well enough to really know > how they might feel about reading that, but I can't imagine it being > pleasant. I don't think Grant or Keven is a copycat, >
As far as I can tell, there is nothing about the shape of Rivendell's bicycles that hasn't been done before. There are very few creative new bike designs. But, I think I have discovered one. I call it the Trianga-pillar: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4495790421/ Patent pending. and I don't > think they approach bike design half-heartedly, and I bet you don't > either. It's fine being honest about subjective things like the > design is 'jarring' or even ugly if that's the way you feel. > > On Apr 5, 4:57 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote: > > > I'm owning up. It's me that has the refund. Mainly due to the > > thought that this is not the bike I pre-ordered. It may be good, but > > not what I was lead to expect from the inital .pdf. The new bike is > > also too jarring to me visually. > > > Sorry to the list if I've made too much and lead to discord. Not my > > wish. Do not want to alienate others because of my own stupid ideas. > > > Am not mad at Rivendell at all. The blame (if there is any) lies > > squarely with me in this case. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > On Apr 5, 6:00 pm, Esteban <kemm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > If I had a deposit, I'd keep it in there until one of these comes off > > > the boat. I'll bet they'll look pretty awesome. Having ridden the > > > prototypes, I'll say that they are SOLID. This diagonal-fest will > > > only make them more solid. And more awesome. > > > > And these were never svelte bikes. They are intended to be tanks, > > > plowers, mowers...anything that adds strength (and innovation to boot) > > > for this utility machine is welcomed... especially from Keven and > > > Grant who do a lot of tinkering and riding and experimenting. > > > > Patience is a virtue. I'm liking this bike more and more. > > > > Esteban > > > San Diego, Calif. > > > > On Apr 5, 3:48 pm, Beth <betha.lu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Man...it sure must be nice to have a PBH above 75. All the choices you > > > > 75+ PBHers have in bike frames makes me delirious and jealous and > > > > still not tall. > > > > > Meanwhile, on back on the little ol' Betty (which....funny isn't > > > > it..the Hunq is beginning to ever-so-slightly > > > > resemble...muhuhuwahahaha.....) > > > > > On Apr 5, 9:01 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > No choice Grant and Keven make is going to make everybody happy. > > > > > > On Apr 5, 8:27 am, Dan Abelson <d...@abelsons.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Having looked at the first mockup, I'm not convinced. Jars my view > > > > > > > too much. Also makes it look like it's a "fatty" bike. Fine. I'm > > > > > > > fat. That's been established. Don't like the idea that I'm stuck > > > > > > > riding a "special" bike. > > > > > > > > With full-length twin laterals, ala the Singer camping, or the > > > > > > > original Breezer, that might work. That's a copy of the Schwinn > > > > > > > Excelsior frame. > > > > > > > > Also, on a slightly different note. With the center tube, would > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > it difficult to sqeeze both a larger bottle and frame pump in > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > interference. At least on a 58. And forget using a pump with a > > > > > > > mount > > > > > > > like the Topeak Morph series. > > > > > > > > Finally, it looks like a half hearted attempt to copy a Salsa > > > > > > > Fargo. > > > > > > > Without the extra standover. > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm upset about this. Will probably end up losing a lot of > > > > > > > money > > > > > > > selling off my frame without building it up. Not something I can > > > > > > > live > > > > > > > happily with. > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > Eric Platt > > > > > > > St. Paul, MN > > > > > > > Eric, > > > > > > > If Riv makes the change, I would just call them. I would not be > > > > > > suprised if > > > > > > they were willing to refund your deposit if you are truly unhappy > > > > > > with the > > > > > > change to the top tube. > > > > > > > Dan Abelson > > > > > > St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.