A few thoughts: - Agree to keep the Hillborne as is. Keep cantis too. Just to have some diversity in the line up.
- Short stem and drops: Personally I don't see it as "making it work". There are even benefits to it: longer wheelbase is possible, less TCO or similar TCO but with bigger tires and fenders. more centered when climbing out of saddle = more traction, less forward weight on steep descents = less headers, etc. - Short stem and drops currently looks weird to people because it is not widely done, but I would not be surprised if sub 60mm stems became the norm on gravel bikes soon. Sub 50mm is already normal on MTB and no one thinks it is weird anymore. - The new Rivendell sizing is very different than what it was a few years ago. I used to ride a 62cm quickbeam and a 61cm Toyo Atlantis comfortably. Bought a 59 MIT Atlantis last year and it rode too big for my taste. Now I have a 56cm MIT Atlantis and that fits excellent. It is nominally the smallest bike I own, but rides much larger. Had I carefully studied the new PBH chart I would have likely gone with the 56 out the gate, but thought I knew better so I learned the hard way. What seems too small may actually be just right. Best, Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:35:13 AM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > To each their own, but if that is “making drop bars work”, it’s not for > me. I’m not afraid of short stems either. But, hey, it’s all about what > works for each individual. I just think the new longer bikes are designed > for swept back bars, and if you are near the bottom end of the pbh range > for a given size, most folks are going to consider it a compromise or worse > to try running drop bars on them. > > I’m interested to see what the new Hillborne color will be. The > black/cream ones were great. > > Eamon > Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8f630af1-2c19-4b8f-adbe-43a5a481b258%40googlegroups.com.
