Nathan - I did intend to tilt the B17 forward a bit... but so far, it
feels fine.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Apr 17, 6:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I mean, Two Inches below saddle, about 5 cm.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> I think it all depends on how long your arms and torso are relative to
> >> your height not forgetting your age, weight and flexibility.
>
> >> I've got my bars 2 cm below saddle on all my bikes except the Sam Hill and
> > the Monocog (1/2 - 1 cm higher, but far more forward thanks to the much
> > longer tts and, on the SH, the much longer stem, with short arms for my
> > height and 55 years to my name. I think a saddle rearward position  makes
> > huge difference in low bar comfort. I am as stiff as a board, btw -- haven't
> > been able to get within 4" of my toes since 1995.
>
> > But I find that a low position, as in the hooks of bars placed as above,
> > makes a great difference not only in speed when you are riding a single gear
> > into a stiff wind, but brings into play certainly muscles that you don't use
> > otherwise.
>
> > I just replaced the B17 on the Sam Hill with a NOS Turbo and the comfort
> > improvement was striking. I now use Turbos on the highbar bikes, and Flites
> > on all my lowbar bikes.
>
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