Actually...even better, you mentioned the attachment doesn't need to do 
anything until it's needed...would there be any issue using the irish strap 
to handlebars connection but keeping it loose enough that it just goes 
behind the bag? That might be my best move. 

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 2:20:33 PM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:

> Holy smokes I didn't even think about steering! I've just been tinkering 
> in the basement and haven't hopped on the bike to try any of these 
> configurations.
>
> So just to be clear, you think if I do something loosely connecting head 
> tube to tombstone, it'd work okay as a failsafe? 
>
> I appreciate it!
> Ben
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 1:59:08 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> No, not ok. that's going to have ill, very ill, or maybe very very very 
>> ill affects on your steering when it's even remotely snug (it could tighten 
>> up at will). You're looking for a failsafe, not something to actually do 
>> anything until it's needed. You might try a fairly loose loop of paracord 
>> or heavy shoelace, just long enough to not catch or bind, but not too long 
>> or it'll get into your brakes and wheel. Tying off to the handlebar is 
>> straightforward because it moves with the rack, headtubes don't so keep it 
>> loose[ish]. And to keep it up and out of the moving bits, consider tying 
>> off to the horizontal top bar of your basket directly in front of the 
>> tombstone, that way it won't want to get fussy with your headset.
>> Have fun!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:54:22 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a photo of what I'm thinking about doing with the strap and head 
>>> tube...
>>> [image: irish.jpg]
>>> The strap is looped through each side of the tombstone twice...once 
>>> through and around the head tube on the opposite side, and then once though 
>>> the inside of the tombstone and back on the same side of the head tube (if 
>>> that makes sense).
>>>
>>> It's snug...but my two concerns are...
>>> 1. it won't stop the rack/basket from crashing into the front wheel if 
>>> the rack fails (I'm not a physics person...but I'm guessing there's more 
>>> holding power vertically than horizontally)
>>> 2. The strap is going to dull up or rub off the paint on the head tube.
>>>
>>> HOWEVER...as I was typing this, I found this...
>>>
>>> https://13507435628737481763.googlegroups.com/attach/26c66c05ba4e4/IMG_1683.JPG?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrEq-9QnruTkMcmxuNN9WRRDupm4Sh5lxv-I6NA_WVq9zMoW7YG8PJm6dkg0zmWGvc0jPMXrF4yVRs-NP2B3aA4xDxxQ3P78klLrAgHSI79Llf-AOr8
>>>
>>> It looks like lashing the tombstone to the head tube has been an option 
>>> for at least Soma and their "Manny Strap". I'm guessing I'm okay with it 
>>> the way I have it.
>>>
>>> Right? 
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all!
>>>> I recently set up my Atlantis with a Mark's rack and medium Walk 
>>>> zip-tied to it. I double strutted the rack and have the Irish strap 
>>>> connecting the tombstone to the bars (Chocos). 
>>>>
>>>> I have an x-small saddle sack that I love and was offered a matching 
>>>> one at a great price. I love the way the x-small sack looks/fits on my 
>>>> handlebars, but I'm having some serious issues figuring out how to strap 
>>>> the tombstone for support while having a handlebar bag.
>>>>
>>>> One solution I might have is to strap the tombstone to the headtube 
>>>> horizontally. I did it a minute ago and looped the Irish strap a bunch of 
>>>> times and tightened it up. Is this good enough for supporting the rack if 
>>>> the tange fails? Will the strap on the frame rub off the paint or 
>>>> top/clear 
>>>> coat? 
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on how to have both a Mark's rack and x-small handlebar bag 
>>>> are welcome. 
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth...I don't plan on ever exceeding the 4 pound 
>>>> recommendation on the rack. I've used it to carry my 3 pound laptop and 
>>>> charger (with a Captain Hook), to grab a 3 pound bag of groceries, etc...I 
>>>> may push it to a six pack of beer, but I have a rear rack and panniers if 
>>>> I 
>>>> need to carry anything heavy. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>

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