Fair question! I was offered another x-small in royal by a member here at a 
great price and I LOVE the one I already have. Perfect size for my roadside 
tool kit, a tube, and a pair of gloves. I'd love a second bag for my phone, 
keys, wallet. I don't NEED this bag on the front, but I like how it looks 
and am going with it, 
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 9:11:41 AM UTC-6 Brian Campbell wrote:

> Why have the bag there at all? 
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 8:47:01 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yeah...for the little I'm carrying in the basket, I'm probably being 
>> overly cautious insisting on trying to find a permanent place for the 
>> strap. 
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 6:38:07 PM UTC-6 spencer robinson wrote:
>>
>>> I have a rack, basket and handlebar bag on my Sam. I do not have a strap 
>>> on my basket, I do check all the mounting nuts and bolts when I clean and 
>>> lube. I always have an Irish or full spectrum strap in the stuff I carry, 
>>> then if I find a cool thing or 2 at a yard sale or carry home a 12 pack, I 
>>> run the strap over the bag, from the stem, over the bars and to the front 
>>> of the rack. Many times the heaviest thing I have in the basket is the 
>>> coffee kit and a sweater.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:22:24 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually...even better, you mentioned the attachment doesn't need to do 
>>>> anything until it's needed...would there be any issue using the irish 
>>>> strap 
>>>> to handlebars connection but keeping it loose enough that it just goes 
>>>> behind the bag? That might be my best move. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 2:20:33 PM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Holy smokes I didn't even think about steering! I've just been 
>>>>> tinkering in the basement and haven't hopped on the bike to try any of 
>>>>> these configurations.
>>>>>
>>>>> So just to be clear, you think if I do something loosely connecting 
>>>>> head tube to tombstone, it'd work okay as a failsafe? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate it!
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 1:59:08 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, not ok. that's going to have ill, very ill, or maybe very very 
>>>>>> very ill affects on your steering when it's even remotely snug (it could 
>>>>>> tighten up at will). You're looking for a failsafe, not something to 
>>>>>> actually do anything until it's needed. You might try a fairly loose 
>>>>>> loop 
>>>>>> of paracord or heavy shoelace, just long enough to not catch or bind, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> not too long or it'll get into your brakes and wheel. Tying off to the 
>>>>>> handlebar is straightforward because it moves with the rack, headtubes 
>>>>>> don't so keep it loose[ish]. And to keep it up and out of the moving 
>>>>>> bits, 
>>>>>> consider tying off to the horizontal top bar of your basket directly in 
>>>>>> front of the tombstone, that way it won't want to get fussy with your 
>>>>>> headset.
>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:54:22 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a photo of what I'm thinking about doing with the strap and 
>>>>>>> head tube...
>>>>>>> [image: irish.jpg]
>>>>>>> The strap is looped through each side of the tombstone twice...once 
>>>>>>> through and around the head tube on the opposite side, and then once 
>>>>>>> though 
>>>>>>> the inside of the tombstone and back on the same side of the head tube 
>>>>>>> (if 
>>>>>>> that makes sense).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's snug...but my two concerns are...
>>>>>>> 1. it won't stop the rack/basket from crashing into the front wheel 
>>>>>>> if the rack fails (I'm not a physics person...but I'm guessing there's 
>>>>>>> more 
>>>>>>> holding power vertically than horizontally)
>>>>>>> 2. The strap is going to dull up or rub off the paint on the head 
>>>>>>> tube.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HOWEVER...as I was typing this, I found this...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://13507435628737481763.googlegroups.com/attach/26c66c05ba4e4/IMG_1683.JPG?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrEq-9QnruTkMcmxuNN9WRRDupm4Sh5lxv-I6NA_WVq9zMoW7YG8PJm6dkg0zmWGvc0jPMXrF4yVRs-NP2B3aA4xDxxQ3P78klLrAgHSI79Llf-AOr8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like lashing the tombstone to the head tube has been an 
>>>>>>> option for at least Soma and their "Manny Strap". I'm guessing I'm okay 
>>>>>>> with it the way I have it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right? 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey all!
>>>>>>>> I recently set up my Atlantis with a Mark's rack and medium Walk 
>>>>>>>> zip-tied to it. I double strutted the rack and have the Irish strap 
>>>>>>>> connecting the tombstone to the bars (Chocos). 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have an x-small saddle sack that I love and was offered a 
>>>>>>>> matching one at a great price. I love the way the x-small sack 
>>>>>>>> looks/fits 
>>>>>>>> on my handlebars, but I'm having some serious issues figuring out how 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> strap the tombstone for support while having a handlebar bag.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One solution I might have is to strap the tombstone to the headtube 
>>>>>>>> horizontally. I did it a minute ago and looped the Irish strap a bunch 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> times and tightened it up. Is this good enough for supporting the rack 
>>>>>>>> if 
>>>>>>>> the tange fails? Will the strap on the frame rub off the paint or 
>>>>>>>> top/clear 
>>>>>>>> coat? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to have both a Mark's rack and x-small handlebar 
>>>>>>>> bag are welcome. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For what it's worth...I don't plan on ever exceeding the 4 pound 
>>>>>>>> recommendation on the rack. I've used it to carry my 3 pound laptop 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> charger (with a Captain Hook), to grab a 3 pound bag of groceries, 
>>>>>>>> etc...I 
>>>>>>>> may push it to a six pack of beer, but I have a rear rack and panniers 
>>>>>>>> if I 
>>>>>>>> need to carry anything heavy. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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