The Original Poster asked questions bout the design of the Susie/Wolbis, and stated their favorite bike has similarly long chainstays but a front center that is fully 4 inches (ten centimeters) shorter. The Original Poster asked for a comparison.
Maybe it would be useful to the discussion for you to show us that favorite bike of yours, and let's compare it to your size of Susie. Post some pictures! My first instinct is that in my size of Susie, if the front center was 4 inches shorter I'd have TCO which I wouldn't want on a hillibike, and the front end would be super heavy. The positive of a heavy front end may be that the front tire hooks up better. The bad part of a heavy front end is that I'd have a harder time getting the front end to roll up and over things. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:39:33 AM UTC-7 reca...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello All, > > Since I've been *very* slowly getting into DIY framebuilding over the > past few years, and by way of it, trying to better understand why some > geometries work for me and my kind of riding over others, I have come to > appreciate the method of builders like Waltworks in terms of using > front-center as a guide for putting together a frame geometry with relation > to getting the rider's weight distribution the way they want it (i.e. > getting the bike to ride and fit the way one wants). > > A corollary to this is that a builder might then use, like Waltworks the > following method (paraphrased): > > > 1. pick the trail you want > 2. pick where you want your wheels to be > 3. pick BB height > 4. make sure the person can then fit the bike in the desired > position(s) through HT length, stem, bars, etc. > > So my long-winded question is, with Grant's emphasis on getting more > upright and weight to the back while making the chainstays longer to > accommodate this, what might be the corresponding logic of making the > front-center length of the Susie/Wolbis almost so long? Is it a matter of > making the total wheelbase longer or a function of the slacker HT and > corresponding fork offset/trail), a combo? Perhaps I am wondering most > importantly is, what are the ride characteristics of such a choice? Does it > still handle in the way that most other high-trail bikes characteristically > do? I ask because I am really interested in this design, understand the > benefits of longer chainstays especially for my kind of more upright > position and preferred weight distribution, but have still found that my > favorite kind of bike that I have ridden so far has a longish rear-center, > lowish trail, and a front-center about 10cm shorter than that of the > Susie. I am by no means a low trail evangelist, so I guess what I am > looking for are some impressions in terms of front-end handling of the > bike? > > Thank you all and please excuse (direct me to the discussions) if this has > been covered here before. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dcddfdb2-9cae-48cb-a364-eed63aa94efen%40googlegroups.com.
