Jan Heine sells 26"x 1.8" supple tires by Panaracer.  perhaps a $72 
investment would 'soften up' your ride to the maximum extent possible. If 
still too harsh, a new flexible frame would be the next step.

I agree with the Tig welding affecting the head and seat tube integrity if 
welded a 2nd time (the welds 'heat affected zone').  Your builder was 
knowledgeable to point this out.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM UTC-4 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> I asked my local frame builder about this idea, and here's what he had to 
> say:
>
> This is not something I would recommend doing.  Since the frame is TIG 
> welded my concern would be the integrity of both the head tube and seat 
> tube after the top tube was removed and the weld remnants filed away.  TIG 
> welding concentrates a lot of heat at the weld area, which can affect the 
> tubes integrity and so putting it through another heat cycle by brzing in 
> another top tube is less than wise.  There are a lot of other options to 
> "liven" up the feeling of a bike.  Wheels and more importantly tires play a 
> huge role.
>
> I'm going to take his advice and leave the frame alone.
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 3:02 PM Clark Fitzgerald <clark...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever replaced a top tube on a steel bike to change the ride 
>> characteristics? Can you tell the difference on a bike with a flexible top 
>> tube? Could it make a difference on a bike with 2 inch wide tires?
>>
>> I've been reading Jan Heine's book All Road Bike Revolution 
>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/print/books/the-all-road-bike-revolution/>,
>>  
>> and the section on frame stiffness got me thinking about why my commuter 
>> bike, an XL 90's Specialized Hard Rock, feels kind of dead. I measured the 
>> top tube- it's 1.25 inches in diameter, larger than other bikes that I've 
>> had. I recall listening to Tom Ritchey praise flexible top tubes.
>>
>> I'm wondering if switching from a 1.25 inch to a 1 inch top tube 
>> <https://www.cycle-frames.com/NOVA-CRMO-25.4-TOP-TUBE-8-5-8-600.html?category_id=1096>
>>  
>> will add some needed frame flex for me. I'm 165 lbs, and 99% of my riding 
>> on this bike is spinning in easy gears. I don't carry a rear load, and I 
>> don't use it for singletrack.
>>
>> Could this be a mostly DIY project? I would never consider doing it 
>> myself on a nice bike, but this ain't a nice bike. Cutting out the old 
>> tube, grinding down the old TIG welds, and mitering the new tube all seem 
>> doable, with patience. I would need a skilled welder to do the actual 
>> welding or brazing though. If it works OK I'd get it powder coated.
>>
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