I’m now 5’5”, used to be 5’7”.  My 55 Bleriot is a tad larger (and tighter 
but not too tight) than my 51cm Sam.  My PBH is 80.6 (as close as I can 
get).  The 51 Sam is as big as I could go and I am using 48mm Rene Herse 
tires (Switchback Hill) with no issues. The Bleriot has 42mm tires on it. 
 Rivendell will always put you on the largest frame they believe will work 
for you.  I agree with this philosophy but you have to be careful and 
proactive.  With their reluctance to put standover heights in the specs  it 
makes things a bit more difficult for some.  

I really like the Sam and love 650b (27.5) wheel size.  I like being able 
to get a fatter tire on the bike and run them at 35psi.  

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:23:11 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> Will:
>
> Don't forget that tire size will impact stand over height.  For instance, 
> 40 mm wide tires will be a bit smaller in diameter than 50 mm.  Don't know 
> what the limit is for a Sam, but that is something to consider.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:52:07 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> I’m 5’ 9” (used to be 5’ 10”) and measured my PBH at 83.  I measured it 
>> again to be sure I was doing it right, then again a couple of weeks later.
>> Every bicycle I had from 1975 on was 700c.  There was no way I was going 
>> to go 650b.  I ordered a Sam in 2015, and Will set me up with a 55 Cm frame 
>> even though I did not mention my aversion to 650b.  The SOH of that frame 
>> was listed at 83.3.
>>
>> My Sam felt just a little “tall” for me.  Sliding off the seat forward at 
>> a stop took some getting used to.  I did adapt, however, and now the Sam 
>> feels like it is part of me when I ride.
>>
>> Last year I got a 51 Cm Homer (650b), to see if a smaller frame would be 
>> better.  It is MUCH too small.  Don’t do that.
>>
>> So I’m with J L.  Call Riv, and believe what they set you up with.  If 
>> they try to set you up with a frame that takes 650b, and you don’t want 
>> 650b, buy something else.
>>
>> As for another model similar to a Sam, look for a Soma Saga.  A Platypus 
>> is also listed as “a country bike”, but it feels nothing like a Sam, while 
>> the Saga does.  I do think a good used Sam from the 2014 - 2017 era would 
>> be a good fit, and the 54 Cm probably would, too.  If you slide off the 
>> seat, be sure to land on your toes.  ;-)
>>
>>

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