The standover of my 51cm Sam with 48mm Switchback Hill tires is about 30.75”. My PBH IS 80.6 so I have a bit of room. Mt 55 cm Bleriot with 42mm tires is a bit over 31.25” and is ok but tight. The TT on the Bleriot is 1cm shorter than the Sam so I use a stem that is 1cm less.
Hope this helps. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 5:49 PM Roberta <rchas...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will, > > I'm 5'7" with an 83cm pbh. I've ridden Sams, but I own a 54.5 AHH and > would be less happy on a smaller bike (I'm like Maia--hey, > RivSister--bigger is better) However, the top tube is close! > > Joel in this thread or another suggested getting someone to measure the > stand over of Sam. Like aeroperf, I rode a 51cm Sam and didn't feel it > was quite right for my PBH, which is both his and yours. One time I was > at Riv and threw my leg over an older 55 Sam and it was too tall for me. > Perhaps the new ones are slightly smaller, even with the bigger wheels. > > Finally, someone here suggested a favor from the listers here for you to > test ride their Sam. I think that is a good idea. > > Roberta > > On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> This is hilarious and you guys are awesome. >> >> my PBH is indeed 83CM if I try to lift myself up off the ground. AAAAnd I >> just found out I am more like 5' 9 & a 1/4". >> >> sounds like I would just qualify for the 54cm Sam which is perfect. >> >> w >> >> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote: >> >>> Will, >>> I second what Jason said. >>> I’m 5’ 71/2”. Maybe 5’8” on a good day with a tailwind. >>> I have a PBH of 83 and ride a 56cm Homer from the time they ran 650B. >>> I’m running Hetres and am quite comfortable with ‘space’ and fit. >>> Best. >>> >>> David >>> Buffalo, NY >>> >>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:05 PM, J L <subf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Will, >>> >>> I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll keep >>> mine brief. >>> >>> 1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that bike. >>> 2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are great >>> to talk to. >>> 3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’11” seems quite >>> short in the legs. I suspect you have under measured. Measure again and >>> keep pulling up as if you are going to lift yourself off the ground. I >>> expect you will find another CM or two of PBH has been there all along. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Jason >>> SFCA >>> >>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. >>> >>> I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B >>> wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand >>> and all of it is 700C. >>> >>> The challenge is that the 54cm Sam they sell these days requires minimum >>> PBH of 83CM, if I go down to a 51cm Sam, they take 650B wheels. >>> >>> Did Riv ever make a smaller Sam that is compatible with my 82PBH that >>> was 700c? >>> >>> Is there another model similar to the Sam that fits my requirements? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c3d2fcc7-60af-4678-a6a8-4e9846843907n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c3d2fcc7-60af-4678-a6a8-4e9846843907n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/68997B02-2FFC-482C-8D2E-3F9869AB4CCD%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/68997B02-2FFC-482C-8D2E-3F9869AB4CCD%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qd583g6m5aI/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/244c5502-f6bc-41d6-8e33-886a7f0b8c72n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/244c5502-f6bc-41d6-8e33-886a7f0b8c72n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ~IMPORTANT~ Note to all~~ EMAIL ETIQUETTE If you forward this email, please highlight and delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address and maybe others. 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