https://bikeinsights.com/ This might be some help Goin large on Rivendell bikes has always worked for me. Howard Livonia Mi
On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 12:49:27 PM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote: > Wow, overwhelming amount of responses. Much appreciated all! > > I think that I will definitely need the 55 or 54 (buying used so will > depend on what pops up) since I do plan to run upright bars of some kind. > > Now just need to find one. This last weekend, there were at least 4x Sams > that went up for sale across the country, all orange. Gives me hope I will > find one soon. > > On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:45:51 PM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I should’ve mentioned the Bleriot is the older Rivendell geometry so >> it’s more like what would be a 52 cm for the measurements today. >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:41 PM J S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So that means 78.1 cm vs. 79.4. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:37 PM J S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The standover of my 51cm Sam with 48mm Switchback Hill tires is about >>>> 30.75”. My PBH IS 80.6 so I have a bit of room. Mt 55 cm Bleriot with >>>> 42mm >>>> tires is a bit over 31.25” and is ok but tight. The TT on the Bleriot is >>>> 1cm shorter than the Sam so I use a stem that is 1cm less. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 5:49 PM Roberta <rcha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Will, >>>>> >>>>> I'm 5'7" with an 83cm pbh. I've ridden Sams, but I own a 54.5 AHH and >>>>> would be less happy on a smaller bike (I'm like Maia--hey, >>>>> RivSister--bigger is better) However, the top tube is close! >>>>> >>>>> Joel in this thread or another suggested getting someone to measure >>>>> the stand over of Sam. Like aeroperf, I rode a 51cm Sam and didn't feel >>>>> it was quite right for my PBH, which is both his and yours. One time I >>>>> was at Riv and threw my leg over an older 55 Sam and it was too tall for >>>>> me. Perhaps the new ones are slightly smaller, even with the bigger >>>>> wheels. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, someone here suggested a favor from the listers here for you >>>>> to test ride their Sam. I think that is a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> Roberta >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is hilarious and you guys are awesome. >>>>>> >>>>>> my PBH is indeed 83CM if I try to lift myself up off the ground. >>>>>> AAAAnd I just found out I am more like 5' 9 & a 1/4". >>>>>> >>>>>> sounds like I would just qualify for the 54cm Sam which is perfect. >>>>>> >>>>>> w >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Will, >>>>>>> I second what Jason said. >>>>>>> I’m 5’ 71/2”. Maybe 5’8” on a good day with a tailwind. >>>>>>> I have a PBH of 83 and ride a 56cm Homer from the time they ran 650B. >>>>>>> I’m running Hetres and am quite comfortable with ‘space’ and fit. >>>>>>> Best. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> Buffalo, NY >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:05 PM, J L <subf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll >>>>>>> keep mine brief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that >>>>>>> bike. >>>>>>> 2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are >>>>>>> great to talk to. >>>>>>> 3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’11” seems quite >>>>>>> short in the legs. I suspect you have under measured. Measure again and >>>>>>> keep pulling up as if you are going to lift yourself off the ground. I >>>>>>> expect you will find another CM or two of PBH has been there all along. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> SFCA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running >>>>>>> 650B wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. 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