Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers regarding 
Rivendell’s bar lineup:
https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close to 
> me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I have no 
> idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts enough that I 
> have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to sing and dance on 
> my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. Anyway, I have a 9 cm 
> Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on there because the 10 cm 
> wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, which I’m hoping pulls the 
> bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 1.5 inches further away from 
> me than my Boscos. 
> 
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
> 
> Thanks!
> Leah
> 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett <philiprbarr...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:philiprbarr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it would 
>> not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take a file 
>> or grinder to it though.
>> 
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to hear 
>> an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) wouldn't 
>> fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple of mm.  So 
>> I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
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