Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too close to me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but there's a used 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for rise) I might be able to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 135 Faceplater be too much reach? I don't want to lean so far forward that I'm bearing weight on my hands. I also don't want to be bolt upright.
Bones, you might have insight here as well... I'm sure the other Platy owners would love to know for their own builds... Leah On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie bar. > That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand positions of > the options I'm familiar with. On the Boscos, while it's common practice > to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how anyone makes > decent use of this area as a hand position. However, while the Billie > extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very comfortably and > naturally slide your hands all the way into the front "hooks", which is a > bunch of inches forward. These bars are so long your stem length does > little more than determine where along the bar you put your brake levers - > I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand position; Rivendell > puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 1.5 grip's worth > about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put your hands > forward even if they rest atop the levers partially. > > Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their > incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and > therefore comfortable to rest your hands on. > > My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) > and the Billie (right) > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM <lucky...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could >> try in Sacramento. >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Leah, >> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some >> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right >> the top tube is soooo long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H >> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. >> Doug >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo >> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a >> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver >> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I >> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and >> we could try it out! >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops >> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my >> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to >> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) >> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. >> Doug >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers >> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup: >> >> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, >> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too >> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, >> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts >> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to >> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. >> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on >> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, >> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about >> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. >> >> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are >> your impressions? >> >> Thanks! >> Leah >> >> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett <philipr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it >> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take >> a file or grinder to it though. >> >> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote: >> >>> That kickstand looks great! Mine is all black and tarnished. Want to >>> hear an odd one? My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) >>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus. It was too narrow by a couple >>> of mm. So I got a different kickstand. 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