Very interesting.  Both my sets of Snoqualmie Pass are standard casing.  
The set on the Quill rims are set up tubeless.  The set on the Dyads have 
tube.  ID rim width are 20.2mm for the Quill and 18.4mm for the Dyad.

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 3:02:28 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Yeah...not really sure why, but there is always some variation, right? 
> They are setup tubeless, but just the standard casing.
>
> Luckily I have clearance for 50+mm tires in the frame and fork, so I'm 
> doing fine on that end.
>
> Collin "its good" in Sactown
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:50:05 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow Collin, you're getting 41mm on the Barlows?  I get 40mm on the 
>> Snoqualmie Pass when mounted on Velocity Dyads and 42mm when mounted on 
>> Quills.  The Barlows mounted on Dyads measured 35mm, if I remember 
>> correctly.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 9:22:11 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> As the others have mentioned, don't you dare think about going smaller 
>>> than 38s. I have RH Barlows (measure closer to 41 on my 21mm ID rims) on my 
>>> 'gravel' ritchey, but I use the bike as my road bike as well and those 
>>> tires are just perfect for road riding and mixed terrain, provided it isn't 
>>> too dusty and loose where you are. Also, RH actually posts tire size based 
>>> on pressure and rim ID on their notes for the tires on their product pages, 
>>> so you can use that as a reference for fit as well.
>>>
>>> And agreed on the choice of standard casing, they work well enough and 
>>> are noticeably (although not much) cheaper than the EL versions.
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Collin, in Chattery Paved Sacramento
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 4:08:06 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All, I'm thinking about treating my Sam Hillborne to a new set of 
>>>> shoes. I'm currently riding smooth Gravel King's in a 38mm. These are set 
>>>> up tubeless and I run them at around 38 to 40 psi. I've been very happy 
>>>> with these tires and find that the 38mm GK's ride great. 
>>>>
>>>> My Sam is circa 2016 with side pull brakes. I am currently using Paul 
>>>> Racers. I could probably fit a larger tire than a 38mm but don't feel the 
>>>> need to. 
>>>>
>>>> I want to try a new set of RH/Compass tires which will also be 
>>>> tubeless. I could just get the Barlow Pass but I am curious about the Bon 
>>>> Jon Pass. I am mostly interested to see how a slight smaller 35mm would 
>>>> compare to a 38. 
>>>>
>>>> I was going to get the standard casing because I am prefer to put a 
>>>> premium on durability over the ultimate suppleness. 
>>>>
>>>> Should I continue to take advantage of the tire clearance I current 
>>>> enjoy and keep riding a 38mm or should I try satisfy my curiosity by 
>>>> trying 
>>>> the 35mm's?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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