OK OK I"ve come to my senses. Nothing less than 38mm so the Barlow Pass is where I am leaning. My tubeless set up is on a Velocity Quill which is just a superb rim. Both wide and stiff which makes for a very durable yet reasonably light wheelset. I don't have a caliper but according to the RH specs on a 23mm rim the Barlow Pass measures 41mm. I am not riding this bike with fenders. My brakes are Paul Racers and I find the 38's fit through a fully open brake when taking the front wheel on and off. A friend of mine who rides a ton more than I do is very knowledgeable on these tires. He said that the Endurance casing is what I want. The extra lights are very difficult to set up tubeless yet the endurance casing is marginally easier. The EL casing is susceptible to sidewall cuts where as the Endurance has the same thread count but has the added protection. I do like to ride rough stuff once in a while so even just a little off road riding calls for a more robust sidewall.
I am currently riding Gravel Kings smooth treads. To me the Gravel Kings have been great. They are an easy tubeless set up and hold air just fine. I've never had a problem with them and I find the ride quality to be very nice. I'm intrigued by the RH tires but when I hear that they are a PITA to set up tubeless I wonder if it is worth the hassle. They also cost twice as much. Will I really improve the quality of my ride? I already feel like the Sam rides amazing on 38mm GKs pumped up to 38 psi front and 40 in the rear. On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:21:44 PM UTC-4 Mark Allen wrote: > Adam, I've had Snoqualmies (in Extra Light, Standard and Endurance > casings, even!) under VO zeppelin 52 fenders on my Sam Hillborne for a few > years now. I think the only thing preventing me from completing my bingo > card is that my Sam is the canti version, not the sidepull. On H+Son > Archetype rims (17.5 mm inner width), the Snoqualmies measure at 41mm for > me and I've got 10 mm of clearance between the tire and the fender. I've > been incredibly satisfied with this setup. > > Mark > On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:08:08 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Very interested in the conversation as I've been tempted by RH tires >> lately. I'm one year into my Shikoros that came with my Atlantis and I love >> them...but I'm tempted to try something else when it's time to replace >> them. The Barlow Pass Endurance casing seems like the play (wish they had >> an all-road in 42mm as my Shikoros are 42mm). >> >> On the other hand...Soma makes a Supple Vitesse EX in 700x42 for $20 less >> a tire....on the other-other hand, maybe I can't beat Shikoro for urban >> commuting/crushed limestone trails. >> >> Ben >> >> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 8:36:46 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote: >> >>> It seems like most folks are happy with Barlow Pass & fenders, which is >>> what I have (with 559s), and that's a great combo. Without fenders I'd go >>> larger, probably the Snoqualmie Pass unless the Oracle Ridge fits w/o >>> fenders? >>> >>> I've considered trying to squeeze the Snoqualmies - which are around >>> 40mm for me too - under VO zepplin 52 fenders. Has anyone tried this? I >>> think the challenge would be the 559 front brake's squeeze when open, which >>> would be a non issue on the OP's Racers, I guess? If anyone's successfully >>> done this, or some other combo of Snoqualmie pass and fenders, I'd like to >>> hear about it. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:14:18 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote: >>> >>>> My Barlow Pass measure 40mm after several months use, mounted on 22mm >>>> internal width rims (Light Bicycle AR28 disc rims). >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 14 September 2021 at 6:50:05 am UTC+10 cycli...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow Collin, you're getting 41mm on the Barlows? I get 40mm on the >>>>> Snoqualmie Pass when mounted on Velocity Dyads and 42mm when mounted on >>>>> Quills. The Barlows mounted on Dyads measured 35mm, if I remember >>>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f89ba844-b8cc-4e08-92aa-cc76778b5f58n%40googlegroups.com.