I discovered this rail situation with Brooks in a form that makes NO sense: The adjustability range on steel- and ti-rail B17s is the same, but it's in a different spot under the saddle. I can't remember which is which (I only have the titanium now) but one of them starts with the saddle further back, then moves the saddle the same distance further back than the other one. Too weird!
Long bikes too short: In general I've found that unless you're on a *really *long-front-center frame (that would be a Clem or my custom), just about any reach-back bar wants an 11/12/13cm stem. Which ain't good if the stem you like only comes in 10 or less, then it's wayback post time or an SA saddle. Which both worked so all good! Joe "yes I know this was convoluted, no I can't edit it any better, I gave up after the third pass" Bernard On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:16:26 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Joyce, I wish we had talked about this! I was hesitant to say I had this > issue because I thought I might be misinterpreting. These long bikes can’t > feel cramped, can they? But you had the same issue, and it might have even > been compounded by us both having Clems. When you ride a Clem you are > luxuriously stretched out. I felt cramped on the Platy after riding a Clem. > > I know mine is not a beautiful solution, but it does work, so I’ll stick > with it for now. And, I HAVE to keep my Rivet saddle - I love it, it’s > white and perfect for my Platy! I’m sorry your color choice didn’t work > out, but I’m so glad that Grant knew about the new rails. Chances are > you’ll rarely think about that color because fit > looks. > #RivSisters, > Leah > > On Nov 20, 2021, at 2:03 PM, JAS <swanso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Great review, Leah! I had the same problem with my Platy, but solved it > a different way. I SO wanted a tan saddle to match the tan tire sidewalls > and grips so I bought a Selle Anatomica...the “new” style with the lighter > cast aluminum rails. All my other bikes have SA black saddles with steel > rails so I figured I deserved something new and different. You > know...matchy, matchy. Yes, the tan saddle is beautiful on the Platy, > but will now be up for sale. Why? I couldn’t get it back far enough to > fit my leg length. Apparently I have long femurs and without the set-back, > my feet were in the wrong place. I could have changed my foot placement on > pedals but that felt weird (arch on spindle vs ball of foot). > > > I really didn’t want to get the IRD seat post due to aesthetics; I like > the elegance of the Nitto S83 so I called RBW to see what other options > there might be and happened to get Grant on the phone. He helped me > determine that Selle Anatomica changed the rail design! They’re shorter on > the cast aluminum. Flipping them over to compare the two saddles had > never occurred to me. The long steel rails give me the perfect fit on > both the Platy and Clem. I tried ordering another tan SA saddle with steel > rails, but didn’t like it so I just stuck my spare black one on the bike > and I’m working on being satisfied with black. (And I say to myself, “Suck > it up, buttercup; it’s not the worst problem in the universe.”) > > #RivSisters, > Joyce > > On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 1:13:28 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote: > >> Nice review. I too have agonized over seatposts. I like Brooks saddles >> enough to be afraid to invest $150+ in something with longer rails (Selle >> Anatomica for example: intrigued, but frugal). >> Getting behind the seat matters to me in ways lengthening the stem >> doesn’t address. I have a bad knee/leg, and it has to extend just so or it >> flares up for weeks. Getting my seat back helps that leg. >> I accomplished this with a Thompson layback post, on one bike, but I like >> the flexibility of the straight post on this since it’ll fit a taller frame >> with lower post. >> I do wish there were more options in way back/layback/setback posts too. >> Keep us updated on how you like this one. >> >> On Nov 20, 2021, at 13:03, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> <4F9D0A57-31F2-46D8-9FC5-2B4CD19A8377.jpeg> >> <01A4B13F-B79C-4AD6-87AA-865A60510C77.jpeg> >> >> <762CEC45-A776-48F4-A909-E57865E26BBC.jpeg> >> I adore my two Rivendells. My raspberry Platypus is perfect, my absolute >> favorite, and my good-natured Clem is a close 2nd. >> >> But over time, I noticed little things that I wished were different. >> Usually, I ponder a long time before actually making any changes, because >> the smallest adjustment can make a bike feel foreign. I have a long and >> documented history of driving to bike shops completely nauseated, and >> crying in their parking lots over ridiculous things like getting new tires >> or brake cables or a new Nitto rack. When I would retrieve the bike after >> service, a typical first ride would be: “Now it’s terrible! Nothing like >> the good thing I had. I hate these new tires. What was I thinking having >> this rack installed?! I knew it, I should have left the bald tires on the >> bike and kept it original!” >> >> Give me enough time and annoyance, and even I will make a change. I had >> not been getting along with my stock seat post (the nose of the saddle >> would tip up) and my Brooks (it was rubbing me the wrong way - ha). I got a >> Rivet Sonora in white (it is fabulous) and a Nitto S83 post, which didn’t >> offer enough setback. I wanted to scoot back, but was at the end of the >> Rivet. I was holding my bars forward of the grips to compensate. I wanted >> to be more stretched out; I felt cramped. My stem is the Nitto x-tall 280mm >> stem in a 9 cm reach. They offer a 10 cm, but nothing longer, and the 10 >> wouldn’t make enough difference. I’m not giving up my 280 mm height, so if >> not a new stem…maybe a new seat post. >> >> Rivendell sells an IRD Wayback seat post. I’m sure I’m committing some >> ergonomic sin by adjusting seat post and not stem, but it WORKED. I sit >> exactly perfect now, and there’s even a measurement on the side so that >> what I like now has a number I can assign to it. >> >> The cons. It’s not an elegant seat post, but it’s dead practical. The >> Nitto wins for looks, but I’m more practical than pretty, so I’m only >> bothered by this a *little*. The Wayback has one bolt, so I’m not sure if >> my Rivet nose will tip up over time. Weight. The Wayback feels heavy in >> hand, and noticeably so compared to the Nitto. >> >> Here is where I will credit Laing for 2 things: both stem and seat post. >> He mentioned both on this List and they were the perfect recommendations >> for me. I’d never have found either, so thank goodness you posted, Laing! >> Leah >> >> PS This hand-wringing does not apply to bags and baskets. 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