I would recommend looking at the geometry chart on the latest Clem L before committing to a 52. I'm 5'-6", 79-80-ish PBH and even with Boscos that bike would be too stretched out for me. I need a 45.
Joe Bernard On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: > iamkeith… thank you for so much content to mull over. It has helped > bunches. So many of you have suggested the Clem that I have begun to > research it more. It does seem like it would be a nice trail bike for me. > And the cost-savings would make combining it with a Platypus feasible. > > Does Rivendell ever sell Clem frames instead of the complete builds? > > My ideal Susie would probably be a 50cm. Ditto for the Platypus, but I > would step up to a 52cm Clem. > On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 3:19:17 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: > >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 10:03:29 AM UTC-7 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: >> * They are both beautiful bikes. For whatever reason, I was drawn to >> the Susie. I like the simplicity of the lugged seat clamp combined with >> filet brazing everywhere else. The high head tube. It looks like none >> other. * >> >> *^ I'm with you on this. I think the Susie is understated perfection, >> aesthetically speaking. (other than the fork crown, perhaps.) Platypus is >> drop-dead gorgeous too, though I did love the lugged chainstay connection >> on the older mixtes.* >> >> >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: >> * I can put the Clem L in the category you are searching just to >> muddy the waters. * >> >> *^ I was resisting chiming-in and muddying the waters, but this is >> actually the bike that satisfies the description of what you're wanting. >> The perfect compromise for roads and trails. Designed around perfect size >> tires (at least for me and my weight and riding conditions, and in terms of >> balancing cushion and rolling resistance and self-steer.) If you don't >> like the aesthetics though, I'd understand completely* >> >> >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:47:25 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote: >> * The biggest difference will be the bottom bracket height and >> step-through ability. The Suzie is more attuned to off-road with a higher >> bottom bracket and will have a higher center of gravity to go along with >> the better ground clearance. The Platypus will have a lower center of >> gravity and a more typical Rivendell ride.* >> >> *^This is exactly right, and is probably more significant than you think >> - especially if part of your desire is motivated by having ridden a >> Rivendell before. The bottom bracket and center of gravity are quite >> high. The Susie is really a full-on mountain bike by any rational >> standard. I've said this in other threads, but I really didn't fully >> grasp this when I got rid of my Clem to get a Susie. Of my three other >> "modern" mountain bikes that I ride regularly, all have more bottom bracket >> drop than my Susie! I love the bike, but It doesn't feel like a Rivendell >> to me - which is slightly perplexing because all of my bike purchases in >> the last 15 years or more, including mountain bikes, have been informed by >> my appreciation for Rivendell's design philosophy. It's always been >> interesting how much of the industry reluctantly follows Rivendell's lead, >> but it's really surprising when they then surpass and out-riv riv. >> (Similar thing has kind of happened with tire widths on road bikes - where >> riv was once the only place you could get a road bike that fit reasonably >> fat tires, there are now many others that take even fatter ones.) So >> whereas I used to prefer my Clem to any other bike I own for relaxed, >> meandering, paved pathway rides and the like, I don't enjoy the Susie the >> same way and end up taking other bikes instead. * >> >> >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:17:44 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> Would you be interested in purchasing an orange Susie and riding it >> until the Platys come to Riv? Rivendells hold their value and have great >> resale. I really think you could sell the Susie if an orange Platy comes >> your way. >> >> *^ This is actually sound advice. However, I'd add one caution: The >> Susie being so different from other Riv models means that not all your >> parts would easily swap over: You'll need a wider bottom bracket on the >> Susie than on the Platypus; you'll probably want wider rims on the Susie >> than on the Platypus in order to take advantage of the tire clearance; The >> Susie is a challenge to fit racks on, and some of the standard Nitto racks >> won't fit the boss placement ( I went through this going from a clem to my >> susie, and ended up needed all-new racks); Fenders won't be cross- >> compatible - in fact, I'm having trouble getting ANY fenders to work on my >> Susie.* >> >> *I sound like I'm being critical but know that, as I write this, I'm >> planning to try to get my wife a Susie from the upcoming batch. * >> >> *Last thing: If you do get a Susie, what size would you fit? I have a >> large orange and, as fate would have it, tow of only three standard riv >> colors that I'd prefer are the dark gold and lime olive. So it might even >> be possible to convince me to swap frames with someone once the new batch >> arrives.....* >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eee68093-52d6-4a88-b952-486929a19ec2n%40googlegroups.com.
