They are both beautiful bikes. For whatever reason, I was drawn to the Susie. I like the simplicity of the lugged seat clamp combined with filet brazing everywhere else. The high head tube. It looks like none other.
It is why it is hard for me to give it up even though every measure of logic points me to the Platypus! I want a Susie, but the Platypus would make the best companion to the vintage MTB I already own. No matter where I land, it will be an abundance of riches. On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 10:50:02 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > From a purely aesthetics point of view, gotta love the Platypus. Great > lines and beautiful lugs. > > On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:32:33 AM UTC-8 Lucky wrote: > >> If you like orange, maybe also watch for a Cheviot for sale…. >> >> On Dec 6, 2021, at 07:22, Laura B <me2g...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Leah, your thoughts are appreciated. Do you know about orange Susie >> frames sitting around??? I have read most of the threads on these models >> and know how much everyone loves their bikes. It is what makes a decision >> so difficult. My thinking changes by the hour! Laing hit all of the factors >> that MIGHT make the Susie disappointing for my personal needs. I worry >> about the higher BB and loss of step-thru qualities. It is also closest to >> my vintage MTB that I have already upgraded with new 26” rims and RH 2.3" >> knobby tires. I have a 1 by 11 derailleur, cassette & shifter sitting in a >> box that will either go on a Susie or my current vintage. I am absolutely >> in love with the filet brazing, but that is not necessarily a reason to buy >> a frame… ;-) >> >> >> In my heart, I do not want either to be an all-rounder!!! I want two >> distinct bicycles. I arrived at that criteria to keep the expenses down. I >> also have the derailleurs & cassette for a 2 by 11 speed drivetrain. It was >> always meant for a road-ish bicycle with 42-48mm smooth tires and fenders… >> sounds perfect for a Platypus! >> >> At the moment, I am thinking I will complete my 1 by 11 vintage MTB build >> and wait for when a Platypus is back in stock. I will give me that district >> Rivendell geometry that I can not duplicate in the vintage bikes. If the >> Riv gods smile upon me, an all-is-sunny-in-the-world *orange* will be an >> option. Since I have been collecting quality components, I am not >> interested in spending money on a complete build. BTW, my size is 50cm… if >> anyone has frames sitting around! >> >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 9:17:44 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> Laura, >>> >>> Everyone here has given you sound replies. But again, we are back to >>> availability of the bicycle. Would you be interested in purchasing an >>> orange Susie and riding it until the Platys come to Riv? Rivendells hold >>> their value and have great resale. I really think you could sell the Susie >>> if an orange Platy comes your way. The other thing that was mentioned is a >>> Clem L. You’ll have to buy used unless Rivendell has one hiding in a box >>> somewhere (and they might, seeing as they just got an assortment in last >>> week). It can definitely handle trails and has the fantastic step-through >>> frame and big tire capability. It is a smaller investment and you might be >>> able to have BOTH a Platy and a Clem. Coincidentally, I have both a Platy >>> and a Clem and they make me deliriously happy. >>> >>> Ben in Omaha mentioned a new version of a Platy rumored to come out. >>> That was Rivendell’s Rosco version of the Platypus, beefier tubes and >>> fork, and TIG welded. That project has been put on hold indefinitely, sigh. >>> >>> Let us know what you’re thinking because this is a really fun thread! I >>> enjoy the discussion about options and desires for favorite colors, etc. >>> I’m cheering for you from here - I hope you get exactly the perfect bike. >>> Leah >>> >>> >>> On Dec 6, 2021, at 5:47 AM, lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote: >>> >>> The biggest difference will be the bottom bracket height and >>> step-through ability. The Suzie is more attuned to off-road with a higher >>> bottom bracket and will have a higher center of gravity to go along with >>> the better ground clearance. The Platypus will have a lower center of >>> gravity and a more typical Rivendell ride. I believe the Platypus has a >>> lower step-though as well. >>> >>> >>> No aggressive single track, no severe off road - go with the Platypus. I >>> don't have a Suzie nor a Platypus, but I do have a Gus Boots Wilsen and a >>> Betty Foy, which is a similar comparison. Subjectively, the Gus seems kind >>> of tall and tippy in tight in-town maneuvers compared to the Betty. If you >>> cannot decide, get a Clem L (I also have a Clementine) - best step-through >>> ability of all. >>> >>> If in still doubt, always go with the lugged bicycle - Platypus, but as >>> others have pointed out - there is no bad choice here. >>> >>> Laing >>> Delray Beach FL >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, I am new to this group and still trying to decide which >>>> Rivendell bike will be my first. I am torn between the Platypus and a >>>> Susie >>>> Longbolts. I hope that there are people here that have ridden both, or >>>> have >>>> turned one of them into their all-around, multi-terrain bike. Ideally, I >>>> would LOVE to have both, but that will take a few years to achieve! >>>> >>>> As a note, all-terrain is pavement, gravel, fire roads, hard-packed >>>> sand. Not aggressive single track or severe off-road. >>>> >>>> Rivendell promotes the Platypus mainly for pavement and the Susie for >>>> trails. In theory, if both were equipped with the same 2.2” all-terrain >>>> tire, which one would make the best multi-use bike? Would the differences >>>> be minor or is the geometry on one better able to adapt? >>>> >>>> Should I limit my expectations to what the bikes were designed for? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help, >>>> Laura >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/a5Q_G831l3w/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/72d55fba-1169-4a3d-bc69-095696e25b36n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/72d55fba-1169-4a3d-bc69-095696e25b36n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6b040101-9493-4a52-8f7f-472ac66b0224n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6b040101-9493-4a52-8f7f-472ac66b0224n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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