I go through these mental gymnastics all of the time. First, I was just recently looking at the Cliffhanger vs. Atlas thing. I was surprised that Velocity shows the Cliffhanger is actually heavier than the Atlas? My Clem came with the Cliffhanger wheels. They are sturdy & I like them. But they are heavy - as is the Clem. That said, if I wanted to ride this bike exclusively on pavement & not loaded I would be in the market for lighter wheels & tires. I think one could save easily 2 pounds of rotational weight which would be noticeable. Might be the only way to remove meaningful weight from a Clem? One scenario might be a set of Velocity wheels utilizing their Quill rim. Those wheels combined with perhaps a 38mm - 42mm tire would, I think, save at least two pounds though I have not confirmed the numbers. But it is a significant cost. Nearly $1k for the wheelset alone.
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Collin A <collinmichae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sofie, > > I went through literally this exact conundrum not too long after I got my 52 > clem in 2017. It sounds like the speed of climbing (and therefore gear > choice) is not an issue, more of how it feels. Also, once you go dyanmo > (especially a nice one like the SON, its hard to go back). > I chose Option #2 in your case (cliffhanger plus a new rear hub), and ended > up re-lacing the existing clem hubs and spokes with some lighter rims > (pacenti brevets) and used them for my partner's AHH. It also gave me an > excuse to pickup the skills of wheelbuilding, which is not as intimidating it > seems. > The new setup made a big difference in how the bike felt, but I also used the > new tubeless compatible rims to setup the clem tubeless, so that also had an > affect on the ride feel (i.e. lower pressures and less rotating weight, tubes > are heavy!). Did it make me quicker riding up hills? Strava says maybe, but > regardless it did make the bike feel much zippier when climbing which helped > me enjoy riding the clem on bigger days with bigger hills. > > If I were to do it again, I'd setup the clem with even lighter duty rims, > something like the Pacenti Brevet or Velocity Quills. When built up by a good > wheelbuilder, they can make an excellent set of wheels that can handle > hillibike style (but not reckless!) riding with abandon. The tradeoff here is > the narrow brake track, something to keep an eye on as the pads wear down. > > Hope this helps, > Collin in Pancake Sacramento > >> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote: >> Help! I'm stuck in analysis paralysis... I have a size 45 Clem complete that >> I adore, purchased in the last Riv lottery. I wanted dynamo lighting so I >> had my local bike shop rebuild the stock front wheel with a SON hub. My clem >> feels quick enough for me - I'm a slow rider, and the weight doesn't bother >> me, except for when I'm riding uphill, and there are a lot of hills where I >> live. Still, I have wheel fomo, and I can't stop thinking about how good the >> Clem could be if I were to put on different wheels than the stock wheels. >> >> I'm considering a bunch of options, with the top ones being: >> >> 1. Get a set of new, relatively lightweight wheels without Dyno for daytime >> riding (which is what I mostly do anyway). Keep Clem stock wheels for when I >> really need the Dyno. I'd have two sets of wheels. >> >> 2. Get new rims (Velocity Cliffhangers?) and salvage the SON hub - Rich can >> use the hub in rebuilding the front wheel. This leaves me with an extra Clem >> stock rear wheel. >> >> 3. Be happy with what I have. >> >> What would you do? >> >> Sofie >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d24446f-a120-4146-8c68-91695567bc47n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/768E5298-478E-4C85-AE6F-002D95BD86DB%40gmail.com.
