Fair enough on the unwillingness to learn wheelbuilding. I kept a dynamo on 
the front of my clem, as it served double duty as my commuter and its just 
so convenient for a commuter bike. My wife loves her lighter dynamo'd AHH 
as well!

I do have a second set of wheels for my Ritchey Outback Breakaway, but they 
are my travel wheels which are smaller and easier to pack (650b vs 700 for 
normal use) and a bit more durable (alu vs. carbon) and not something I 
shed a tear over if they get dinged or damaged in the case.

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 4:03:06 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow, thank you Joe, Joe B, Collin, Patrick, and Richard for such helpful 
> responses. 
>
> Joe: Touche! I've also thought about spending more of my energy on 
> strengthening my legs - maybe then the hills won't feel so cumbersome!
>
> Joe B: That's an interesting option 4! Good point about the weight of the 
> dyno hub being substantial.
>
> Collin: It's funny you mention your partner's AHH... I have no faith in my 
> ability to learn wheel building at this point in my life, but I did nearly 
> use this conundrum to rationalize acquiring a Rivendell frame for my 
> husband to make use of the current wheels. Did you end up keeping a dynamo 
> hub on the front wheel of your clem?
>
> Patrick: I've considered trying some new tires, and have been eyeing some 
> from RH. I currently have Schwalbe G-One Evolution tires, and they're 57mm, 
> so perhaps I should try some lighter tires. I love the cush of the G-Ones, 
> but they are probably more robust than I need.
>
> Richard: It's nice to hear I'm not alone in practicing "mental gymnastics" 
> around my Clem! I will check out the Quills too, though they are likely out 
> of my budget... I was thinking about an option like Cliffhanger rims with a 
> decent, non-dyno hub and lighter tires, which would set me back by more 
> like $600... 
>  
> Does anyone keep more than one set of wheels for one bike or is that 
> utterly ridiculous?
>
>
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 6:40:55 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I go through these mental gymnastics all of the time. First, I was just 
>> recently looking at the Cliffhanger vs. Atlas thing. I was surprised that 
>> Velocity shows the Cliffhanger is actually heavier than the Atlas? My Clem 
>> came with the Cliffhanger wheels. They are sturdy & I like them. But they 
>> are heavy - as is the Clem. That said, if I wanted to ride this bike 
>> exclusively on pavement & not loaded I would be in the market for lighter 
>> wheels & tires. I think one could save easily 2 pounds of rotational weight 
>> which would be noticeable. Might be the only way to remove meaningful 
>> weight from a Clem? One scenario might be a set of Velocity wheels 
>> utilizing their Quill rim. Those wheels combined with perhaps a 38mm - 42mm 
>> tire would, I think, save at least two pounds though I have not confirmed 
>> the numbers. But it is a significant cost. Nearly $1k for the wheelset 
>> alone.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Collin A <collinm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sofie,
>>
>>
>> I went through literally this exact conundrum not too long after I got my 
>> 52 clem in 2017. It sounds like the speed of climbing (and therefore gear 
>> choice) is not an issue, more of how it feels. Also, once you go dyanmo 
>> (especially a nice one like the SON, its hard to go back).
>>
>>    - I chose Option #2 in your case (cliffhanger plus a new rear hub), 
>>    and ended up re-lacing the existing clem hubs and spokes with some 
>> lighter 
>>    rims (pacenti brevets) and used them for my partner's AHH. It also gave 
>> me 
>>    an excuse to pickup the skills of wheelbuilding, which is not as 
>>    intimidating it seems.
>>
>> The new setup made a big difference in how the bike felt, but I also used 
>> the new tubeless compatible rims to setup the clem tubeless, so that also 
>> had an affect on the ride feel (i.e. lower pressures and less rotating 
>> weight, tubes are heavy!). Did it make me quicker riding up hills? Strava 
>> says maybe, but regardless it did make the bike feel much zippier when 
>> climbing which helped me enjoy riding the clem on bigger days with bigger 
>> hills.
>>
>> If I were to do it again, I'd setup the clem with even lighter duty rims, 
>> something like the Pacenti Brevet or Velocity Quills. When built up by a 
>> good wheelbuilder, they can make an excellent set of wheels that can handle 
>> hillibike style (but not reckless!) riding with abandon. The tradeoff here 
>> is the narrow brake track, something to keep an eye on as the pads wear 
>> down.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Collin in Pancake Sacramento
>>
>> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Help! I'm stuck in analysis paralysis... I have a size 45 Clem complete 
>>> that I adore, purchased in the last Riv lottery. I wanted dynamo lighting 
>>> so I had my local bike shop rebuild the stock front wheel with a SON hub. 
>>> My clem feels quick enough for me - I'm a slow rider, and the weight 
>>> doesn't bother me, except for when I'm riding uphill, and there are a lot 
>>> of hills where I live. Still, I have wheel fomo, and I can't stop thinking 
>>> about how good the Clem could be if I were to put on different wheels than 
>>> the stock wheels.
>>>
>>> I'm considering a bunch of options, with the top ones being:
>>>
>>> 1. Get a set of new, relatively lightweight wheels without Dyno for 
>>> daytime riding (which is what I mostly do anyway). Keep Clem stock wheels 
>>> for when I really need the Dyno. I'd have two sets of wheels. 
>>>
>>> 2. Get new rims (Velocity Cliffhangers?) and salvage the SON hub - Rich 
>>> can use the hub in rebuilding the front wheel. This leaves me with an extra 
>>> Clem stock rear wheel. 
>>>
>>> 3. Be happy with what I have.
>>>
>>> What would you do?
>>>
>>> Sofie
>>>
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