Not ridiculous at all in my opinion. Before I got the Clem I got a second set of identical wheels for my Jones. Both were set up tubeless, one with plus size MTB tires, the other with tires more suited for road / gravel duties. Key to this working was that they were identical including the disk brake rotors. This meant it was true plug & play - with no need for adjusting the brakes. That is the primary reason I will not be getting an alternate set of wheels for the Clem. I do not want to have to adjust those brake pads for different rims every time I swap wheels. I too have the G1 tires on my Clem. They have the less expensive “performance” casings however. Though I am enjoying the ride quality of these 2.25” (57mm?) tires they are 725 grams each! The Rene Herse Juniper Ridge (48mm) are I think 480 grams in the standard casing, and like 415 in the extra light. That’s where I plan to start - just getting significantly lighter tires for the wheels I have. Going tubeless of course could save a bit more weight.
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Sofie C <sofi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow, thank you Joe, Joe B, Collin, Patrick, and Richard for such helpful > responses. > > Joe: Touche! I've also thought about spending more of my energy on > strengthening my legs - maybe then the hills won't feel so cumbersome! > > Joe B: That's an interesting option 4! Good point about the weight of the > dyno hub being substantial. > > Collin: It's funny you mention your partner's AHH... I have no faith in my > ability to learn wheel building at this point in my life, but I did nearly > use this conundrum to rationalize acquiring a Rivendell frame for my husband > to make use of the current wheels. Did you end up keeping a dynamo hub on the > front wheel of your clem? > > Patrick: I've considered trying some new tires, and have been eyeing some > from RH. I currently have Schwalbe G-One Evolution tires, and they're 57mm, > so perhaps I should try some lighter tires. I love the cush of the G-Ones, > but they are probably more robust than I need. > > Richard: It's nice to hear I'm not alone in practicing "mental gymnastics" > around my Clem! I will check out the Quills too, though they are likely out > of my budget... I was thinking about an option like Cliffhanger rims with a > decent, non-dyno hub and lighter tires, which would set me back by more like > $600... > > Does anyone keep more than one set of wheels for one bike or is that utterly > ridiculous? > > >> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 6:40:55 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >> I go through these mental gymnastics all of the time. First, I was just >> recently looking at the Cliffhanger vs. Atlas thing. I was surprised that >> Velocity shows the Cliffhanger is actually heavier than the Atlas? My Clem >> came with the Cliffhanger wheels. They are sturdy & I like them. But they >> are heavy - as is the Clem. That said, if I wanted to ride this bike >> exclusively on pavement & not loaded I would be in the market for lighter >> wheels & tires. I think one could save easily 2 pounds of rotational weight >> which would be noticeable. Might be the only way to remove meaningful weight >> from a Clem? One scenario might be a set of Velocity wheels utilizing their >> Quill rim. Those wheels combined with perhaps a 38mm - 42mm tire would, I >> think, save at least two pounds though I have not confirmed the numbers. But >> it is a significant cost. Nearly $1k for the wheelset alone. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Collin A <collinm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> Sofie, >> >>> >>> I went through literally this exact conundrum not too long after I got my >>> 52 clem in 2017. It sounds like the speed of climbing (and therefore gear >>> choice) is not an issue, more of how it feels. Also, once you go dyanmo >>> (especially a nice one like the SON, its hard to go back). >>> I chose Option #2 in your case (cliffhanger plus a new rear hub), and ended >>> up re-lacing the existing clem hubs and spokes with some lighter rims >>> (pacenti brevets) and used them for my partner's AHH. It also gave me an >>> excuse to pickup the skills of wheelbuilding, which is not as intimidating >>> it seems. >>> The new setup made a big difference in how the bike felt, but I also used >>> the new tubeless compatible rims to setup the clem tubeless, so that also >>> had an affect on the ride feel (i.e. lower pressures and less rotating >>> weight, tubes are heavy!). Did it make me quicker riding up hills? Strava >>> says maybe, but regardless it did make the bike feel much zippier when >>> climbing which helped me enjoy riding the clem on bigger days with bigger >>> hills. >>> >>> If I were to do it again, I'd setup the clem with even lighter duty rims, >>> something like the Pacenti Brevet or Velocity Quills. When built up by a >>> good wheelbuilder, they can make an excellent set of wheels that can handle >>> hillibike style (but not reckless!) riding with abandon. The tradeoff here >>> is the narrow brake track, something to keep an eye on as the pads wear >>> down. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Collin in Pancake Sacramento >>> >>>>> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Help! I'm stuck in analysis paralysis... I have a size 45 Clem complete >>>>> that I adore, purchased in the last Riv lottery. I wanted dynamo lighting >>>>> so I had my local bike shop rebuild the stock front wheel with a SON hub. >>>>> My clem feels quick enough for me - I'm a slow rider, and the weight >>>>> doesn't bother me, except for when I'm riding uphill, and there are a lot >>>>> of hills where I live. Still, I have wheel fomo, and I can't stop >>>>> thinking about how good the Clem could be if I were to put on different >>>>> wheels than the stock wheels. >>>>> >>>>> I'm considering a bunch of options, with the top ones being: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Get a set of new, relatively lightweight wheels without Dyno for >>>>> daytime riding (which is what I mostly do anyway). Keep Clem stock wheels >>>>> for when I really need the Dyno. I'd have two sets of wheels. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Get new rims (Velocity Cliffhangers?) and salvage the SON hub - Rich >>>>> can use the hub in rebuilding the front wheel. This leaves me with an >>>>> extra Clem stock rear wheel. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Be happy with what I have. >>>>> >>>>> What would you do? >>>>> >>>>> Sofie >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d24446f-a120-4146-8c68-91695567bc47n%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67425c31-259a-4421-8f2d-926ca44066c1n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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