Looks good. Easier to wheelie too. jim m walnut creek
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 7:20:28 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > YYYYYYYYYYYYYY > > On Fri., Oct. 21, 2022, 7:16 p.m. Leah Peterson, <jonasa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Jason: like this? Y/N. >> 🙃Leah >> >> [image: image2.jpeg] >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 21, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'll chime in here that in the past few months the front rack was >> removed from my Sam and front basket relocated to the rear rack. >> >> The change in the handling of the bike with the 10+lb 'dynamic' load was >> welcome, while the passenger is willingly accepting the somewhat obstructed >> view. I keep telling her there's less chance of a bug zinging her in the >> face now! >> >> [image: Sam_Front_Rack.jpeg] >> [image: Sam_Rear_Rack.jpeg] >> A Riv Shiny Rack is on its way to provide a little more margin to the >> load. Done with heavy front loads for now. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris >> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 7:29:08 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: >> >>> It looks GREAT. I’m not surprised that you’re going with the more is >>> more triangle idea—it will be fab! >>> >>> Similar to my commuter setup and I love it so I think you will too. It’s >>> freeing to get excess weight off the front. >>> >>> How do you like it? >>> >>> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 8:30:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I picked up my bike today. I had the work done yesterday but when I got >>>> home I realized the rear dyno light wasn’t illuminating. Back I went, and >>>> since the shop was working on the light, I begged them to fix the wiring >>>> job they had done. The wires were bunched up and zip tied with black zip >>>> ties right behind my head tube. Really unsightly. I brought my raspberry >>>> Platypus along to illustrate a beautiful wiring job. I told them I’d pay >>>> them all over again for labor (to their credit, they tried not to accept, >>>> but I think it was fair to pay again because they were redoing the wiring >>>> for cosmetic reasons) if we could just mirror the red bike’s wiring. They >>>> studied the racing Platypus and snapped some photos. Then, they got to >>>> work. >>>> >>>> There was some problem with the connection for the rear light, so they >>>> replaced it. And there was an extra connection behind the headlight, so >>>> they eliminated it. They zip-tied the wires to the cables that run >>>> alongside the down tube. They secured the extra wire near the kickstand >>>> plate instead of by the pretty lugs at the head tube. Nice and hidden. >>>> This >>>> is not the bike I’m precious about, but I still like it to look pretty. >>>> The >>>> shop did a really nice job; I bet they will do their zip ties to the >>>> cables >>>> from now on. There really isn’t any drawback that I can see and it is so >>>> aesthetically pleasing. If I ever get access to mint-colored zip ties I’ll >>>> replace the black ones. >>>> >>>> [image: image0.jpeg] >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: image9.jpeg] >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: image1.jpeg] >>>> >>>> Here it is, bare naked: >>>> [image: image8.jpeg] >>>> >>>> I put the basket on the rack and hung the bags. It feels very different >>>> without the weight on the front end, but I think I love it. I have had >>>> zero >>>> time to ride tonight, but should weather cooperate, I’ll test it out this >>>> weekend. I really, REALLY love that I no longer deal with wheel flop. >>>> >>>> [image: image4.jpeg] >>>> >>>> The reflector on the side of the Ron’s bag needs a new home. To be >>>> determined. >>>> [image: image5.jpeg] >>>> >>>> [image: image6.jpeg] >>>> >>>> Thanks for all your help and posts on this thread! It is fun to >>>> reconfigure a bike in ways that might better serve. >>>> Leah >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Joe, isn’t it the truth? I got it all put right now, I think! More on >>>> that later. I’m headed out to dinner… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Someday a bike shop is going to put one of your bikes back together >>>> properly. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but that day will come. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:23:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>> Ding! wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got my bike done today at the shop and it has made a huge difference >>>>> in ease of lifting it onto the rack. I didn’t get far with setting it up >>>>> again because when I got home I realized the rear dyno light isn’t >>>>> working >>>>> now. She shop had to mess with the dyno wiring and something is likely >>>>> off, >>>>> but I can’t see what. Also, they wadded up the wire and zip tied it to >>>>> the >>>>> top tube, near that pretty head tube lug and it’s hideous. I will beg >>>>> them >>>>> (and pay them again) to wire that bike more classily. My other bike is a >>>>> perfect example, so maybe I bring that in as a guide. >>>>> >>>>> But, once I get these details handled, I do think I’m going to love >>>>> the improvements. Photos to come! >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's because your romanceur is a low trail bike with 36mm of trail >>>>>> as opposed to the 55-60mm on typical Rivendell bikes. Conversely, >>>>>> that's >>>>>> why the Romanceur won't ride well without a front load! That makes >>>>>> bikes >>>>>> like that a specialized item as opposed as a bike meant for general >>>>>> riding >>>>>> that can be used for both carrying a load and riding without one. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran a porteur rack and large basket on my romanceur and never >>>>>>> noticed the weight. I'd be surprised when I took it off how much the >>>>>>> rack+basket weighed. Riding I found it to be no issue. I could load it >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> and it was never an issue. I actually found it a bit too wispy unloaded >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> but I rarely go on a ride with *nothing* with me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once I purchased a new style clem smith jr the wheel flop even with >>>>>>> just a rack and basket drove me nuts. Loaded up with lots of tools or >>>>>>> groceries it rides OK. but it didn't have the same effortless *pushing >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> wheelbarrow* feel my romanceur had. I feel it lacks the nimble aspect >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> works well bike camping riding gear on slower trails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently acquired a first generation Clementine - I find it's >>>>>>> somewhere in between the Romanceur and Clem Smith. I read somewhere >>>>>>> Clementines were a Hunqapillar front end with a swooped TT and longer >>>>>>> rear >>>>>>> Tri. It rides best unloaded. But doesn't have the same flop as JR >>>>>>> making it >>>>>>> tolerable lugging larger loads of tools or groceries. It's fine for >>>>>>> now. I >>>>>>> think once I get bike camping with it i'll have to be more creative >>>>>>> dispersing weight rather than jamming it all in my front basket or >>>>>>> large >>>>>>> front porteur bag. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trail definitely seems to be the biggest factor IMO. I'd love a >>>>>>> custom low trail hunqapillar(ish) bike one day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:00:27 PM UTC-7 freem...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, and thank you for posting this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was just about to order one to put on my, 'new to me' early >>>>>>>> aughts quickbeam. I was curious on it's weight and how it would feel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For years ( about a decade !) I had a Schwinn voyageur with the >>>>>>>> surly front rack combo - ready to tour, ready to ferry an obscene >>>>>>>> amount of >>>>>>>> groceries home. It was heavy and worth it; I'm also ready to move to >>>>>>>> something lighter with my new quickbeam. Maybe a Nitto M1 or another >>>>>>>> minimal cantilever attached front rack will be nice. Won't be able to >>>>>>>> haul >>>>>>>> as much, but that's okay too! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Side tangent, but related: does anyone have a recommendation for a >>>>>>>> canti front rack? I was looking at the one on VO - seems decent, but >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> love to hear other people's opinions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 3:05 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a non-front-rack guy (so why are you even posting, Joe??) I >>>>>>>>> have no thoughts on that particular rack, but I DO have thoughts on >>>>>>>>> total >>>>>>>>> bike weight. When I had my custom designed, then added parts, I >>>>>>>>> leaned >>>>>>>>> towards as much lightness as I could safely get away with for the >>>>>>>>> use. >>>>>>>>> Lighter = easier/faster was a consideration, but the main goal wasn't >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> riding but moving the thing around. If it's a struggle to get up the >>>>>>>>> steps >>>>>>>>> to my house or load in the back of the car I'm going to be annoyed by >>>>>>>>> that, >>>>>>>>> the bike needs to be accessible in all ways. SO. If you're struggling >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> load it and can find a lighter/smaller rack to do the same job, I >>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>> this is the way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 2:00:17 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can we just talk about the Nitto Basket Rack for one sec? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was so excited when this was made and I got one soon after. I >>>>>>>>>> have it on my Overkill Shopping Platypus, and I like the way it >>>>>>>>>> looks and >>>>>>>>>> its utility but it is SO HEAVY. Noticeably heavy. Like, when I lift >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> unloaded bike onto my van bike rack I struggle - and I’m no wimp. >>>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>>> Platy outweighs my rear-racked and Backabike’d Clem, and I think the >>>>>>>>>> Basket >>>>>>>>>> Rack is mostly to blame. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m toying with the idea of removing it, but then I’d have to get >>>>>>>>>> a new setup for my dyno headlight, so I hesitate. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don’t think I’ve heard anyone else complain about the weight of >>>>>>>>>> the Basket Rack; I feel like I’m the only one, which makes me >>>>>>>>>> suspect I’m >>>>>>>>>> wrong. Before I do anything drastic, I just wanted to see if this >>>>>>>>>> has been >>>>>>>>>> anyone else’s experience. Is the Basket Rack a beast? Has anyone >>>>>>>>>> else tried >>>>>>>>>> it and disliked it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know there’s a whole discussion out there about carrying weight >>>>>>>>>> on the front. I guess I’ve never had a real issue with it, aside >>>>>>>>>> from not >>>>>>>>>> liking that the bars swing around when parked. I’m not really >>>>>>>>>> talking about >>>>>>>>>> THAT; I’m wondering if anyone else finds this Nitto rack >>>>>>>>>> unnecessarily >>>>>>>>>> heavy. Not that I’m going for lightweight, here. 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