Because more is MORE! 🤣 Totally doing it. > On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:31 PM, JAS <swanson.jo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Leah, what a nice change! Your bike is perfect. I'm with Jason...3 > triangles on the back, just like he described. > > Joyce > >> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 6:23:30 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >> Yeah looks great! The rear basket would look silly on the racing platypus, >> but it just fits in with what this bike is for. >> >> Hear me out on the triangle: one orange triangle on the back of each >> pannier, and the green one up on the basket for three (!) rear triangles and >> nice symmetry. The Rons bag is already a giant safety triangle for the >> front, effectively >> >>> On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 18:14:18 UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Looks good Leah! You’ve inspired me to try a switcheroo on my Rosco (of >>> which I still need to post photos of on the group). >>> >>>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>  >>> >>>> I picked up my bike today. I had the work done yesterday but when I got >>>> home I realized the rear dyno light wasn’t illuminating. Back I went, and >>>> since the shop was working on the light, I begged them to fix the wiring >>>> job they had done. The wires were bunched up and zip tied with black zip >>>> ties right behind my head tube. Really unsightly. I brought my raspberry >>>> Platypus along to illustrate a beautiful wiring job. I told them I’d pay >>>> them all over again for labor (to their credit, they tried not to accept, >>>> but I think it was fair to pay again because they were redoing the wiring >>>> for cosmetic reasons) if we could just mirror the red bike’s wiring. They >>>> studied the racing Platypus and snapped some photos. Then, they got to >>>> work. >>>> >>>> There was some problem with the connection for the rear light, so they >>>> replaced it. And there was an extra connection behind the headlight, so >>>> they eliminated it. They zip-tied the wires to the cables that run >>>> alongside the down tube. They secured the extra wire near the kickstand >>>> plate instead of by the pretty lugs at the head tube. Nice and hidden. >>>> This is not the bike I’m precious about, but I still like it to look >>>> pretty. The shop did a really nice job; I bet they will do their zip ties >>>> to the cables from now on. There really isn’t any drawback that I can see >>>> and it is so aesthetically pleasing. If I ever get access to mint-colored >>>> zip ties I’ll replace the black ones. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Here it is, bare naked: >>>> >>>> >>>> I put the basket on the rack and hung the bags. It feels very different >>>> without the weight on the front end, but I think I love it. I have had >>>> zero time to ride tonight, but should weather cooperate, I’ll test it out >>>> this weekend. I really, REALLY love that I no longer deal with wheel flop. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The reflector on the side of the Ron’s bag needs a new home. To be >>>> determined. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for all your help and posts on this thread! It is fun to >>>> reconfigure a bike in ways that might better serve. >>>> Leah >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Joe, isn’t it the truth? I got it all put right now, I think! More on >>>>> that later. I’m headed out to dinner… >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Someday a bike shop is going to put one of your bikes back together >>>>>> properly. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but that day will come. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:23:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>> I got my bike done today at the shop and it has made a huge difference >>>>>>> in ease of lifting it onto the rack. I didn’t get far with setting it >>>>>>> up again because when I got home I realized the rear dyno light isn’t >>>>>>> working now. She shop had to mess with the dyno wiring and something is >>>>>>> likely off, but I can’t see what. Also, they wadded up the wire and zip >>>>>>> tied it to the top tube, near that pretty head tube lug and it’s >>>>>>> hideous. I will beg them (and pay them again) to wire that bike more >>>>>>> classily. My other bike is a perfect example, so maybe I bring that in >>>>>>> as a guide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, once I get these details handled, I do think I’m going to love the >>>>>>> improvements. Photos to come! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> That's because your romanceur is a low trail bike with 36mm of trail >>>>>>>> as opposed to the 55-60mm on typical Rivendell bikes. Conversely, >>>>>>>> that's why the Romanceur won't ride well without a front load! That >>>>>>>> makes bikes like that a specialized item as opposed as a bike meant >>>>>>>> for general riding that can be used for both carrying a load and >>>>>>>> riding without one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I ran a porteur rack and large basket on my romanceur and never >>>>>>>>> noticed the weight. I'd be surprised when I took it off how much the >>>>>>>>> rack+basket weighed. Riding I found it to be no issue. I could load >>>>>>>>> it up and it was never an issue. I actually found it a bit too wispy >>>>>>>>> unloaded - but I rarely go on a ride with *nothing* with me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Once I purchased a new style clem smith jr the wheel flop even with >>>>>>>>> just a rack and basket drove me nuts. Loaded up with lots of tools or >>>>>>>>> groceries it rides OK. but it didn't have the same effortless >>>>>>>>> *pushing a wheelbarrow* feel my romanceur had. I feel it lacks the >>>>>>>>> nimble aspect that works well bike camping riding gear on slower >>>>>>>>> trails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I recently acquired a first generation Clementine - I find it's >>>>>>>>> somewhere in between the Romanceur and Clem Smith. I read somewhere >>>>>>>>> Clementines were a Hunqapillar front end with a swooped TT and longer >>>>>>>>> rear Tri. It rides best unloaded. But doesn't have the same flop as >>>>>>>>> JR making it tolerable lugging larger loads of tools or groceries. >>>>>>>>> It's fine for now. I think once I get bike camping with it i'll have >>>>>>>>> to be more creative dispersing weight rather than jamming it all in >>>>>>>>> my front basket or large front porteur bag. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trail definitely seems to be the biggest factor IMO. I'd love a >>>>>>>>> custom low trail hunqapillar(ish) bike one day. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:00:27 PM UTC-7 freem...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hello, and thank you for posting this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was just about to order one to put on my, 'new to me' early aughts >>>>>>>>>> quickbeam. I was curious on it's weight and how it would feel. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For years ( about a decade !) I had a Schwinn voyageur with the >>>>>>>>>> surly front rack combo - ready to tour, ready to ferry an obscene >>>>>>>>>> amount of groceries home. It was heavy and worth it; I'm also ready >>>>>>>>>> to move to something lighter with my new quickbeam. Maybe a Nitto M1 >>>>>>>>>> or another minimal cantilever attached front rack will be nice. >>>>>>>>>> Won't be able to haul as much, but that's okay too! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Side tangent, but related: does anyone have a recommendation for a >>>>>>>>>> canti front rack? I was looking at the one on VO - seems decent, but >>>>>>>>>> would love to hear other people's opinions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 3:05 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> As a non-front-rack guy (so why are you even posting, Joe??) I have >>>>>>>>>>> no thoughts on that particular rack, but I DO have thoughts on >>>>>>>>>>> total bike weight. When I had my custom designed, then added parts, >>>>>>>>>>> I leaned towards as much lightness as I could safely get away with >>>>>>>>>>> for the use. Lighter = easier/faster was a consideration, but the >>>>>>>>>>> main goal wasn't for riding but moving the thing around. If it's a >>>>>>>>>>> struggle to get up the steps to my house or load in the back of the >>>>>>>>>>> car I'm going to be annoyed by that, the bike needs to be >>>>>>>>>>> accessible in all ways. SO. If you're struggling to load it and can >>>>>>>>>>> find a lighter/smaller rack to do the same job, I think this is the >>>>>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 2:00:17 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we just talk about the Nitto Basket Rack for one sec? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was so excited when this was made and I got one soon after. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have it on my Overkill Shopping Platypus, and I like the way it >>>>>>>>>>>>> looks and its utility but it is SO HEAVY. Noticeably heavy. Like, >>>>>>>>>>>>> when I lift the unloaded bike onto my van bike rack I struggle - >>>>>>>>>>>>> and I’m no wimp. This Platy outweighs my rear-racked and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Backabike’d Clem, and I think the Basket Rack is mostly to blame. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m toying with the idea of removing it, but then I’d have to get >>>>>>>>>>>>> a new setup for my dyno headlight, so I hesitate. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t think I’ve heard anyone else complain about the weight of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Basket Rack; I feel like I’m the only one, which makes me >>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect I’m wrong. Before I do anything drastic, I just wanted to >>>>>>>>>>>>> see if this has been anyone else’s experience. Is the Basket Rack >>>>>>>>>>>>> a beast? Has anyone else tried it and disliked it? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know there’s a whole discussion out there about carrying weight >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the front. I guess I’ve never had a real issue with it, aside >>>>>>>>>>>>> from not liking that the bars swing around when parked. I’m not >>>>>>>>>>>>> really talking about THAT; I’m wondering if anyone else finds >>>>>>>>>>>>> this Nitto rack unnecessarily heavy. Not that I’m going for >>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight, here. I mean, look at these pics. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e60a3342-084b-4886-9c07-f55f5289294dn%40googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/78mAv_Gw6a0/unsubscribe. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/592d8ae1-c312-4e07-a904-86cf7df87aecn%40googlegroups.com. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/208961EA-686C-4D1E-A3F5-D167BFE45F0A%40gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/78mAv_Gw6a0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9667c9ca-bafc-42d5-bbef-5bb33fcf6c24n%40googlegroups.com.
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