Just catching this now, hey thanks for the shoutout Eric! And it means a 
lot that you said that about the forest photo! That was a special day, 
first ride on the rebuild after paint.

I don't have nearly the historical knowledge that many here do, and a lot 
has already been said. But here are my summarized thoughts between the two 
anyway, beyond the obvious difference of location of manufacture. The 
Hunqapillar seems to me like a "v2" Bombadil - they increased tire 
clearance over the Bombadil from 2.1 to 2.4" on most sizes, they made 
little geometry tweaks but just a smidge here and there, and notably they 
made the frame more cost-effective by not only changing suppliers but by 
simplifying the design a bit. 

To me they are still both "ATB" Rivendells, made to tackle trails loaded or 
not, and also be comfortable to ride on pavement as long as you're not in 
too much of a rush. When it comes to which is more coveted, it really comes 
down to whether the little superfluous (but beautiful) details on the 
Bombadil are important to you, and/or which paint job and geometry 
specifics suit you better. I think of them like the Appaloosa and Atlantis 
- basically two flavors of the same bike.   

 

On Sunday, 11 December 2022 at 07:16:08 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, 
> beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While 
> I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the 
> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>
> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about these 
> bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>
> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
> thread 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mkxv02ciCM4/m/KqWZOIMQAwAJ>, 
> there's 
> some great info there. 
>
> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>
> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 
> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very 
> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose 
> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture 
> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>
> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>
> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I 
> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got 
> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. 
>
> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>
> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up here 
> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/>.
>
> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>
> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW had 
> to stop using Tolkien names. 
>

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