One more note that I didn't think of until I hit submit - the batch differences that exist on Bombadils (and maybe Hunqapillars too) are more significant than the difference between a Bombadil and a Hunq if you remove the location of manufacture from the equation.
On Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 16:24:22 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > Just catching this now, hey thanks for the shoutout Eric! And it means a > lot that you said that about the forest photo! That was a special day, > first ride on the rebuild after paint. > > I don't have nearly the historical knowledge that many here do, and a lot > has already been said. But here are my summarized thoughts between the two > anyway, beyond the obvious difference of location of manufacture. The > Hunqapillar seems to me like a "v2" Bombadil - they increased tire > clearance over the Bombadil from 2.1 to 2.4" on most sizes, they made > little geometry tweaks but just a smidge here and there, and notably they > made the frame more cost-effective by not only changing suppliers but by > simplifying the design a bit. > > To me they are still both "ATB" Rivendells, made to tackle trails loaded > or not, and also be comfortable to ride on pavement as long as you're not > in too much of a rush. When it comes to which is more coveted, it really > comes down to whether the little superfluous (but beautiful) details on the > Bombadil are important to you, and/or which paint job and geometry > specifics suit you better. I think of them like the Appaloosa and Atlantis > - basically two flavors of the same bike. > > > > On Sunday, 11 December 2022 at 07:16:08 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > >> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, >> beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While >> I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the >> origins and intended uses of these frames. >> >> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about these >> bikes along with pictures of builds. >> >> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another >> thread >> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mkxv02ciCM4/m/KqWZOIMQAwAJ>, >> there's >> some great info there. >> >> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: >> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf >> >> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in >> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very >> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many >> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose >> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture >> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. >> >> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg] >> >> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I >> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got >> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. >> >> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg] >> >> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up here >> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/>. >> >> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] >> >> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW >> had to stop using Tolkien names. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d6fad240-4ebb-45ea-a0c3-c66a1d5809cbn%40googlegroups.com.