Richard...

I highly praise your words of explaining your love and appreciation for 
your 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle from the design to the specific 
details that makes the Clems' so wonderful to ride. 

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 
... it is time to go ride tomorrow.


On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am no bike geometry expert & I’ve really only ridden one Rivendell, my 
> size 52 Clem “L”. I am not counting my size 57 Gus as I’ve only ridden it 
> (sans brakes) down the street to check fit. It has a lot in common with the 
> Clem, obviously.
> I think there is a lot more to this design formula than designing around 
> really setback bars like the Bosco. I don’t think it is accidental that 
> these bikes feel so “roomy” and unbelievably comfortable. The long stays & 
> resulting wheelbase are a big part of the comfort but it’s the front end 
> that really gets my attention. That front wheel is WAY out there 
> eliminating any possibility of pedal overlap even with one’s feet (like 
> mine) slid forward to the mid foot position. The flat part of the bar is 
> also way out there especially on my bike with a 135 length stem. Of course 
> the extreme backsweep makes it all work but the end result is this 
> incredibly roomy cockpit. It’s one of my favorite things about these bikes 
> and it has ruined me for any bike that puts the bars & front wheel closer 
> to me. YRMV.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From what I have seen pretty much every Rivendell has a longer reach 
> these days vs the Toyo days because they are designed around sweptback 
> bars. Which I am always a little confused by because you want to get the 
> bars closer but you have to extend the reach through geometry or long stems 
> to do it. Seems like the end result is usually the same. But yeah...I would 
> bet the Platy has a longer reach than a Toyo Atlantis. I know my Clem L is 
> way out there. I keep a short stem on it with Toscos to get it where it 
> works for me.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug — If you haven't yet I'd recommend calling Rivendell, someone 
>> there would be happy to talk to you about the differences in the frames. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
>>> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
>>> - Matt
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>>>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>>>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable 
>>>> frames. 
>>>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>>>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
>>>>>> the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
>>>>>> best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
>>>>>> doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
>>>>>> I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
>>>>>> shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too 
>>>>>> far. 
>>>>>> Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
>>>>>> back 
>>>>>> bars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
>>>>>> think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
>>>>>> fantastic 
>>>>>> is you're in southern California.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Peterson 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
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