Hey Doug,

I have a 55cm Platypus and an 84cm pbh too. I'm running 60cm wide tosco 
bars with an 85mm faceplater stem and the distance between the center of 
the bar ends to the tip of the saddle is 53.5cm or 21 inches. I feel like 
this set up is really upright in a good way--I had a 110mm technomic stem 
and choco bars before recently making the switch.

Best,
Jake in NYC

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 5:56:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ack, forgot to add the pic of my mid-tuber. 
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230209_144530.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 2:56:09 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>>
>> Can concur. My 54.3cm custom (79 PBH) has a Platypus-like to toptube 
>> which I consider a "mid-tube" that falls between a traditional diamond 
>> frame and step-through. It's great for stopping for a minute to get both 
>> feet down and check my phone or whatever, but I've had very little success 
>> stepping through it to get on or off the bike. I always kick it and I paid 
>> a lot of money for all that fancy Joe Bell paint so...I don't do that 
>> anymore! Clem L is the trick for stepping through. 
>>
>> Also the L is probably a softer ride. I haven't ridden a Platypus but I 
>> owned its predecessor, a 55cm Cheviot, and it was notably stiffer than the 
>> two sizes of Clem L (45 and 52) that have passed through my hands.   
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:33:10 AM UTC-8 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> My PBH is a little higher than yours.  I just got a new Platypus, well 
>>> last Fall, and followed Riv's advice in getting the 60cm size along with 
>>> pretty long reach Nitto Loscoe handlebars.  Looks like the photos here: 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021
>>>
>>> My experience is that I sometimes step through to get on the bike, but 
>>> it is sorta hard to do that think where you take your leg as you are about 
>>> to dismount while riding and slide it through in front of you to get both 
>>> feet on the ground.the gap .  The frame is just a bit too high for that.  I 
>>> compare that to my first generation Xtracycle long tail, where I have to 
>>> dismount that way because if I swing my leg around I would kick my kid or 
>>> any cargo quite inelegantly.  
>>>
>>> As for mounting the bike, or getting off once stopped, there is still an 
>>> extra bit of leg lifting to do.  So I think Kim is onto something here with 
>>> the Clem.
>>>
>>> Steve Seelig, Wash, DC
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
>>>> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
>>>> - Matt
>>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>>>>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>>>>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable 
>>>>> frames. 
>>>>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>>>>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>>>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>>>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>>>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>>>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very 
>>>>>> solid 
>>>>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg 
>>>>>>> over the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks 
>>>>>>> like 
>>>>>>> the best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
>>>>>>> doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. 
>>>>>>> Specifically, 
>>>>>>> I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
>>>>>>> shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too 
>>>>>>> far. 
>>>>>>> Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
>>>>>>> back 
>>>>>>> bars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
>>>>>>> think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
>>>>>>> fantastic 
>>>>>>> is you're in southern California.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doug Peterson 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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