Jason, it looks like such a solid and perfect commuter, I was surprised when you let it go. Makes me want one, if only production models had canti posts... Its nice having a dedicated fendered and racked bike. I recently took off the front basket rack from my Joe to take it on some single track adventures. It was meant to be temporary but the lightened front end feels so good.. makes me want to have a different dedicated basket rack/fender city bike. Bikesnob had some similar musings about his rock combo and homer recently.
On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 12:34:08 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > Thanks Dustin, Eric - indeed it's an Abus Bordo lock. A little heavier > than a similar strength U-lock but it's handy having it on the frame where > I can't forget it. I'm glad to hear the production run is secured it > sounds like, I suppose the quietness is just because they're in the waiting > phase now. > > On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 08:28:07 UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Looks great, Jason, and sounds like a good compliment to your other >> bikes. It's cool to have your rigs squared and sorted for particular >> purposes. >> >> Dustin — I'm not 100% but I think that might be a seat-tube mounted >> folding lock that has a cage that mounts to the bottle bosses. >> >> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:13:33 AM UTC-4 DJC wrote: >> >>> I spoke with Vince three or four months ago about the Charlie project >>> and he said they have it slotted for a 2024 production run. Hopefully this >>> will happen, as I'm definitely interested in one as a daily commuter to >>> complement my Clem H. The Clem is my workhorse and heavy hauler, whereas >>> the Charlie would be my "fast" commuter. >>> >>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 11:11:56 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Been a little while since this thread was updated - in fact, I sold >>>> mine around the time of the last post, but recently bought it back from >>>> the >>>> friend I'd sold it to as I realized my mistake! I rebuilt it similarly to >>>> before, but with a few differences such as a B17 vs C17 saddle, triple >>>> crankset with early 90's XT, silver fenders.. but the same bars plugged >>>> back in without so much as being unwrapped. It's truly ideal for my >>>> everyday needs and I was crazy to have sold it in the first place - now >>>> the >>>> Bombadil can be retired from commuting duties and as such, be reconfigured >>>> to focus on adventure and bikepacking. >>>> >>>> I haven't heard much out of Riv on this bike... wonder if it's still on >>>> the books?? >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: PXL_20230423_164506068.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 10:44:40 UTC-8 maxcr wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Abe, that's super helpful. I'm coming from an analog 0mm >>>>> extension (w)right stem and I used (I think) a 100mm Nitto stem near the >>>>> the minimum insertion line >>>>> >>>>> Next experiment will be to flip the albatross, I have long arms so >>>>> maybe that will work better for me. >>>>> >>>>> Max >>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> [image: IMG_2063.jpg] >>>>>> [image: IMG_2064.jpg] >>>>>> [image: IMG_2076.jpg] >>>>>> FYI, after this photos I adjusted the inner bar ends a bit and will >>>>>> again as I putz around on it. I have some inner bar ends in the mail too >>>>>> which are like the SQLabs model, but these longer (150mm) bar ends are >>>>>> pretty cozy so I'll try them both. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:18:39 PM UTC-8 Pancake wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, changed stems: >>>>>>> Soma Portola with 6cm extension Technomic >>>>>>> Nitto Labarross with 10cm extension Technomic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Both were raised pretty high but the Albatross is nearly the the >>>>>>> minimum insertion line (1cm shy) while the Portola was about 4cm shy of >>>>>>> min >>>>>>> insertion line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m a heavy guy with long torso and short legs, brooks B17 saddle >>>>>>> almost as far back as it will go on a S83 setback seatpost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Albatross bar setup is the same stem/bar setup I used on my >>>>>>> Cheviot. With the inner bar ends I get tons of added forward reach to >>>>>>> pull >>>>>>> on or lean into, if I didn’t have those I’d probably want at least 11cm >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> stem extension though. Any less than 10cm extension and I’d worry about >>>>>>> knee strikes on the ends of the albatross bars when they’re this low. >>>>>>> And I >>>>>>> wouldn’t use bar end shifters with the current setup for the Sam >>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My next move is to try swapping the Nexus rd for an XT rapid rise rd >>>>>>> with a 13t lower pulley wheel (replacing the 11t original). The Nexus >>>>>>> doesn’t take kindly to heavy pedaling pressure uphill in a low gear, it >>>>>>> starts to skip. This is probably because I’ve got it way past the max >>>>>>> gear >>>>>>> size and chain wrap capacities (46/30t crankset, 11-40t cassette). If I >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> less heavy I suspect it wouldn’t be a problem, but I’m hoping the wider >>>>>>> wrap/capacity of the XT rd will eliminate this issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the “hoods” (pulling on the inner bar ends) the Charlie is a >>>>>>> rocket that pulls my weight off the seat to pedal harder and faster >>>>>>> like in >>>>>>> the drops or hoods. On the hand grips I’m in “sit up and beg” mode - >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> tall to see well in traffic and nice for standing up as I pedal >>>>>>> uphills, >>>>>>> but relaxed enough to putter around town for as long as I could want. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> long arm (e.g., normal) v-brakes are just perfect and so strong I can’t >>>>>>> imagine ever wishing for disc brakes. What a fun and versatile bike! >>>>>>> These >>>>>>> should sell out every time, it’s the best Riv I’ve been on (which >>>>>>> includes: >>>>>>> Cheviot, Sam Hillborne, Saluki, Homer, Gus, Suzie, Rosco Baby). Fast >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> Homer, strong and versatile like Sam, better braking than any other, >>>>>>> swoopy >>>>>>> goodness. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Abe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:51 PM, maxcr <max.fai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Abe, I forgot to ask, did you change the stem length going from >>>>>>> the Soma Portola to the Albatross? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Max >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also recently installed Albatross bars (not upside down) on my >>>>>>>> Charlie, but I think I need to tweak them. I haven't installed my >>>>>>>> grips >>>>>>>> yet, but after a quick 20m ride my hands/wrists made it clear that the >>>>>>>> angle wasn't working. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is a photo of the process, I'll post the new setup once I have >>>>>>>> the grips finalized. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_8661 (1).jpeg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do like the Paul levers / Paul v-brake combo, brakes feel better >>>>>>>> than the cane creek ones I had on the noodles. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Abe, would you mind posting a side photo of your CHG? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Max, always tinkering in Boston >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:01:32 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Excellent...thanks for the report, Abe! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 03:57:58 PM MST, Abe Gardner < >>>>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Schwable G-One Allround 700x50. Fits nicely, great for gravel and >>>>>>>>> chunky pavement; very good on smooth pavement. Slight noise on >>>>>>>>> pavement but >>>>>>>>> only compared to Snoqualmie Pass (700x44mm) tire smoothness. I’d love >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> try Hatcher Pass (700x48mm smooth) next but thes G-One Allrounds are >>>>>>>>> super >>>>>>>>> (and cheaper by a small bit vs. Rene Herse tires). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’m running them with tubes that have some Stan’s sealant inside - >>>>>>>>> never a flat but currently a slow leak that probably resolved with >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> sealant since my lunch time ride. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Abe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:21 PM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>>>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What tires are those, Abe? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 01:17:34 PM MST, Pancake < >>>>>>>>> abe.g...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <C4176DC6-AD02-4CDD-9BC2-C9C4BC167FFC.jpeg> >>>>>>>>> <A3B1A5B2-3946-48CF-8155-370280D0D8AD.jpeg> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I put albatross bars on my Charlie, mounted them upside down and >>>>>>>>> raise the stem way high. This gives me a better grip towards the >>>>>>>>> front of >>>>>>>>> the curves of the bar, but I also put some bar ends at the most >>>>>>>>> forward >>>>>>>>> point, so they give a on the hoods type of position as well. very >>>>>>>>> nice for >>>>>>>>> pulling on and leading down into the wind. Open to suggestions on >>>>>>>>> where to >>>>>>>>> mount the shifters, they feel pretty good mounted towards the center. >>>>>>>>> I’m >>>>>>>>> really enjoying the bar is mounted upside down, it’s just a more >>>>>>>>> comfortable way to hold in the curves. I am on a Nitto Technomic, 10 >>>>>>>>> cm >>>>>>>>> extension stem, this leaves the hand grips about level with the >>>>>>>>> saddle at >>>>>>>>> the maximum insertion point. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> V- brakes! Switching to the albatross bars, with cheap, avid >>>>>>>>> levers, and nice DRX brake arms improoves the braking dramatically. >>>>>>>>> It’s >>>>>>>>> really night and day compared to calipers or the short arm v-brakes I >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> using before. The stopping power both better modulated and much >>>>>>>>> stronger. >>>>>>>>> But the weird, unnecessarily, strong mechanical advantage of a short >>>>>>>>> arm >>>>>>>>> (85mm) V- brakes is gone. 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