Brian, I do not recall your size but I think we ride the same size Gus - large? FYI, I am equally comfortable on my large Gus with 29” x 2.6” tires as I am on my size 52 Clem L with 27.5” x 2.25”. I enjoy both wheel sizes. I think the Clem is a superb gravel bike though not necessarily a fast one.

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On Jul 1, 2023, at 8:48 PM, Brian Turner <brokeb...@gmail.com> wrote:


Crust bikes comes to mind. I have their 650b “gravel” bike… the Bombora. They have several others. Surly does. Kona does.

I actually prefer 650b as a wheel size, and there was a time when Rivendell was pushing that size hard and designing frames around it. Now, I’m sized out of Rivendell’s 650b offerings. Most Riv frames my size are now the cutoff for 700c, and honestly it kind of bums me out. 

On Jul 1, 2023, at 8:03 PM, Ted W <ted.l.w...@gmail.com> wrote:


I don’t know about a bike dedicated to 650B in all sizes but some smaller Rivs come as a 650B and the Susie is 650B… but what is a gravel bike, after all, but a bike ridden on gravel or hard-pack dirt roads? I would classify most of the bikes made by Riv as gravel or gravel adjacent. They’ve almost all got generous tire clearance. The only thing modern gravel bikes have that Rivs lack are expensive electronics and disc brakes, really…

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 4:47 PM George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote:
There has been a lot of discussion about "gravel bikes" on this blog lately, but has there been any consideration given to a 650B gravel bike, so to speak?  IOW, are there any bikes set up like a 650B and with available "gravel accommodating" tires available?  Maybe I've missed something in the discussion threads, but I can't recall seeing this.

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