Nice build. Off-topic alert. I recently changed my Clem to 1x and am using a 40T chainring and 11-48 cassette. I never use the 48 and think I could easily have gone with a 11-42. I'm interested to find out how you do on steep inclines with the 42/36 low gear with this setup. Thanks, Doug
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:37:17 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, if we’re sharing pictures. I don’t have any glamor shots yet but > here’s what I’ve got right now (pardon the messy house, just moved). > > From back to front: > * Velocity Cliffhanger rear wheel with Velo-Orange hub > * 10spd 11-36 cassette > * Deore derailleur > * Shimano Alivio T4000 v-brakes > * B17 saddle w/ Randy Joe Fab waxed canvas cover > * Kaloy seatpost > * Velo-Orange 1x crank with 42T ring > * 60mm stem > * Velo-Orange Rando bars > * Grepp bar cotton wrap > * Tektro aero levers > * Velo-Orange rack > * Cliffhanger rim, Shutter Precision PD-8 hub > > Riding on 29x2.2 SimWorks Super Yummy tires > Bag by The Spindle ATL. > > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 6:16 PM Stephen <cavell....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm a joe appaloosa rider and I've had mine set up at different times >> with: Loscos, Riv Bullmoose, Nitto B802AA, and currently its got the >> classic albatross. >> >> [image: appaloosa.jpg] >> Pic for reference because all threads need bike pictures :) >> >> I'm going to be devil's advocate and support shortening the stem and >> making your drops work. >> >> - First off its the most affordable and quickest solution, granted >> you are pleased with all other aspects of the handlebar setup. Also, you >> can get a pretty good idea of how much to shorten your stem since its the >> only variable changing. >> - Secondly, I selfishly want to see some more drop bar set up >> appaloosas. It seems really rare to do so, but lately I've been thinking >> it >> could work really well on the bike. I've seen more modern atlantis' with >> drops, and if anything the Joe is a slightly more road oriented version >> of >> that bike. List member Takahashi's Hunqapillar set up with drops also >> comes >> to mind. >> - Thirdly, I don't think the Joe is so super long that it needs to be >> dedicated to swept back bars. This depends on your body's relation to >> your >> frame size of course, but on my 60cm, loscos + 11cm stem felt too >> short/cramped. For myself I've realized that if I go with swept back bars >> I >> need ones that sweep forward too, like the albatross. >> >> Another opinion with regards to albastache/mustache bars: if you are >> thinking of running them with flat bar type levers I'd say scrap that idea >> and just get albatrosses. thats a case of using something in a way it >> wasn't designed to be used and i think youd be happier with albatrosses. I >> have a set of albastache and I'd say it works best with the classic road >> brake lever setup and bar end shifters, or possibly bar end brake levers. >> and as previously stated they require a slightly shorter stem than an >> equivalent drop bar setup. >> >> And finally, to devil's advocate my devil's advocate... Rivendells are >> such fun bikes to experiment with different setups on. I love playing >> around with different handlebars and parts to spice up my bike and make it >> feel new again. Different handlebars are better at different things, and >> I've learned theres no perfect pick. I'm always gonna be swapping >> handlebars, sometimes to meet a certain situation, or just because I'm >> bored. if swept backs are calling your name, you might as well answer (i >> vote albatross or billie). >> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:48:01 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote: >> >>> I take all claims of a certain frame supposedly being designed for a >>> certain type of bar with a grain of salt as there are endless variables >>> that come in to play. The first is the rider themselves, not just body >>> proportions but flexibility, core strength and their ability to ride in a >>> position suitable for them. Same with bars and stems, none are limited to >>> or by each other, a given frame or rider. It's really up to the rider to >>> play around with their bike as no one else experiences your bike from your >>> unique perspective. I realize this is a online group to talk about stuff >>> and throw ideas around though, so playing a game of "what if" inevitable. >>> >>> All that said, I looked at the geo charts @ bikeinsights and I don't see >>> the Appa as being particularly long in reach at all. I compared it to a >>> bike I have, a 60 Bomba, and a road frame I do not have, the Sam. the sizes >>> can be changed of course. The Bomba has 24mm reach than a Appa to for me >>> running a drop bar would be easy. Ted says the reach was too far, but I'd >>> want to know if the saddles were int he same relative position ? The Appa >>> has a 71.5d STA and the Bomba a 72. That equates to about a 6.5mm >>> difference. So if you didn't know and just set up your saddles on the same >>> positions on the rails you wouldn't even know that one was further back by >>> 6.5mm. While that may not seem like much, it does all add up. >>> >>> If you do choose a swept back bar nay to the Billie in my opnion, it's >>> too long rearward for your modest needs. An Albastache bar would also >>> require a very short stem to get a shorter reach, so if you're gonna do >>> that you may as try a shorter stem for the drop bars first. I've had both >>> steel and AL Albatross bars and I prefer the steel as I use it with bar end >>> brake levers and thumbshifters mounted around the inside of the curve so I >>> have the entire bar free. It "may" have more rise than you want though. I >>> tried it flipped before and it wasn't what I expected, I hated it. The top >>> curve actually feels better with the rise up and I thought reverso may feel >>> better, but it didn't. It looks cool, but felt awful. I have no experience >>> with a Choco bar, but there's no way in h-e-double toothpicks I'd ever get >>> a bar fixed to a stem. Again, looks cool, but offers zero flexibility. I >>> don't suppose a Choco was made in steel, but I recall Blue Lug having a >>> steel bar somewhat similar, a M356 ? Yeah, that's it ! >>> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-b356-m-s-bar-silver.html. Sure >>> shipping is like $46 but you gotta look at overall cost, plus there may be >>> other stuff you'd like. That looks like it's quite versatile to various >>> stem heights and lengths and won't be a wet noodle. With thumbshifters at >>> the top inside angled section and bar end levers you're free to find the >>> best position at any given time. Needless to say, I'm highly biased against >>> mtb levers as they're always in the way of the hands on the bars, and >>> what's room on a bar for but to move your hands around ? DOH ! >>> >>> That's how it goes with asking for "advice" though huh, you get >>> everyone's wishlist thrown at you as to what to do ! Ahahahahaha !! >>> >>> >>> >>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=646ed3ba6c60a90021cb6aa6,5b8578f448f3a30004789ad8 >>> , >>> >>> >>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=646ed3ba6c60a90021cb6aa6,638a1581423463001c996236 >>> , >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b39729a1-c179-402e-b13e-3b7e10abdc43n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b39729a1-c179-402e-b13e-3b7e10abdc43n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Ted Wood < ted.l...@gmail.com > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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