Hey Ted!

I’ve got a 53cm Atlantis with 100mm stem and albatross bars, and a near 0 
mm stem with mustache bars on my Holdsworth. Both super different vibes, 
but I’m in Atlanta if you have a desire to check either of them out!

Love my Alba bars though!

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:35:38 PM UTC-4 brizbarn wrote:

> I started with SimWorks Little Nick bars with a 80mm 7 shaped stem on my 
> Appaloosa. Decided to try Billie bars after a few months just to see if I 
> would like a more upright position.  For me, they felt too upright, and 
> made pedaling hard / standing up to climb feel awkward. I put the SimWorks 
> bars back, but changed to a Nitto Periscopa stem and have been happy with 
> that. 
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 5:30:11 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> I clearly too WAY too long pondering my response, Garth nailed it here 
>> IMHO...
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:27 PM Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the 
>>> Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau 
>>> version.  The difference in reach is 35mm, 120mm down to 85mm. I was going 
>>> to mention this but I assumed you had the Nouveau version. That bar or one 
>>> like it, as there are many shorter reach and relatively normal looking drop 
>>> bars these days, plus a bit more narrow width @46cm(hoods) may be enough 
>>> without a different stem. The Salsa Cowbell, Zipp Service Course 70 XPLR, 
>>> and some Ritchey versions come to mind as having 68-70mm reach and very 
>>> slight flares. 
>>>
>>> see here : https://bikepacking.com/index/gravel-bars/ 
>>>
>>

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