I need to learn to proofread better considering I can't edit my posts here.
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:09:21 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > Unless there is a reason to need the stiffness there isn't much of a > reason to go with the moose version of the choco bar over a standard > bar/stem combo. WAY more flexibility that way. Now if you need the > robustness or stiffness that the moose version is very nice but it IS > overbuilt or most applications with a huge trade off in set up options. But > I agree they should be a solid first choice option for an Appaloosa. > > On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:31:45 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > >> If between the Billie and Alba I'd go Billie, having run both. Much >> prefer the longer sweep back of the Billie and greater real estate for >> shifters, levers and the "hooks" position on the bars which for me is >> critical for climbing or spirited riding. >> >> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:02:12 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote: >> >>> Hey Ted. >>> >>> Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell >>> you the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the >>> main hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops >>> position like drops. I gather that Albastache was designed mostly to >>> shorten the reach... Also, you can't use upright bar stuff on either of >>> them so a flipped Albatross, Billie or Choco would seem to be best. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 9:18 AM Ted W <ted.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That's an interesting idea, Doug. I would have never considered >>>> flipping Albatross bars like that. Another option I've considered is >>>> Mustache bars with flat bar levers near the back instead of the typical >>>> road levers up front. It seems to me like those are similar, if narrower, >>>> than something like the Albatross bar but have a similar (slightly more >>>> accentuated) curve. And, like flipping the albatross bars, would give a >>>> drop instead of a rise... I might play with that idea a bit tonight. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 11:36 AM Doug Van Cleve <dvan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Ted. >>>>> >>>>> I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops >>>>> (and if I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse >>>>> for >>>>> you. A narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the >>>>> reach a fair bit, I think. That said, I don't think any of the current >>>>> super long chainstay RBW bikes are really suited for drops. I just put >>>>> together a JA that came with Albatross' and a Technomic, 9cm I think, and >>>>> it feels too close and too tall in front. It's a 51cm IIRC, whichever >>>>> size >>>>> is 650B, and the PBH size chart would have put me one size smaller. I >>>>> have >>>>> a Choco-Moose waiting to go on it, I'm hoping that slammed it will give >>>>> me >>>>> more reach and lower bar height. >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> P.S. You might consider flipped Albatross' as well, less reach and >>>>> drop than any actual drop bar but still some... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 7:08 AM Ted W <ted.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it >>>>>> today. First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The >>>>>> ride is amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; >>>>>> nimble yet stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to >>>>>> channel the wisdom of the group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently, I have the bike built with drop bars (50cm V/O >>>>>> Randonneur). However, I know this frame, like many of the Riv frames, is >>>>>> really built with swept back bars in mind. Knowing this, I went with a >>>>>> stem >>>>>> that's about half my "typical" length. Unfortunately, it still feels >>>>>> like >>>>>> quite a reach to get on the hoods, not impossible, but not "normal". So, >>>>>> this is where my question starts: >>>>>> >>>>>> Do I continue to try shortening the stem, say to maybe 30-40mm, or do >>>>>> I give in to my swept bar destiny and spring for some new bars? And if I >>>>>> go >>>>>> with sweeps, which bars do people like on the Appa? I have 65mm Tosco >>>>>> bars >>>>>> on my Gus and it's wonderful on that bike, but being that I don't want >>>>>> to >>>>>> be quite so upright (and there's not quite as much room) on the Appa. I >>>>>> was >>>>>> thinking of going with either Billie or Albatross bars. The two are so >>>>>> similar, however, that I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. >>>>>> I'm >>>>>> probably splitting hairs, as usual, but I'm genuinely curious to see >>>>>> what >>>>>> y'all think. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ted Wood < ted.l...@gmail.com > >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAK64jTE-PhzxBf%2BjqmNnK_NyPKu7kDL0QpzkbDBVjocGeEci2g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAK64jTE-PhzxBf%2BjqmNnK_NyPKu7kDL0QpzkbDBVjocGeEci2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ted Wood < ted.l...@gmail.com > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANCvSho00h-9xNqPDtXLLdiP21oGSmu%3DzPm4JaQ%3DKbnguGvn0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANCvSho00h-9xNqPDtXLLdiP21oGSmu%3DzPm4JaQ%3DKbnguGvn0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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