https://www.halfordsmailorder.com/deer-mitts-gold-ladies-large-glmitt196golll

I prefer simple deer skin mittens with fleece liners for anything below 
freezing to about -19*c / -19*f

I've had the same pair for 10 years. I have terrible circulation in my 
fingers and numb quickly. 

IMO Lobster claws are a joke. Snow board mittens are OK but over priced. 
Gloves are worst than lobster claws for cold (I wear thin gloves above 32 
though). Pogies are nice but limit hand positions a bit more than I care 
for. 
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-7 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> All leather for this job is a tough choice in my use case.  I need mitts 
> to be occasionally waterproof but more often breathable.  And in fact, I'll 
> err on the side of breathable because a very waterproof mitt will leave me 
> with wet hands inside anyway.  To get leather to the waterproof stage, you 
> need a sealant (I like SnoSeal), rendering it basically non-breathable.  My 
> personal compromise is a mountaineering mitten with removable liner and a 
> leather palm.  I get the grippiness and longevity of leather (synthetic 
> substitutes are far inferior), which I can waterproof + the breathability 
> of modern membranes (PFCs are a downside).  I dispose of the factory liner 
> beacuse they're usually garbage and use a dense, lightweight wool mitten, 
> knit by my loving mother.
>
> Will
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:04:35 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> I also like my Kinco mitts but one note of clarification is that their 
>> built in liner is of the 'fingered/gloved' type so each digit is lined 
>> separately within the mitten.  They are otherwise much warmer than the now 
>> heavily worn out cashmere lined leather gloves I was previously using for 
>> most of my winter riding.  Those older gloves were better for gripping a 
>> variety of bars and using controls but nowhere near as effective for 
>> keeping my fingers warm or dry.  My Kinco mitts also came with a pack of 
>> Nikwax (I think) waterproofing paste to work into the leather.  
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 1:45:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, a second +1 for Kinco products. They're on my short list.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:02 PM David Pulsipher <puls...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The best mittens, hands down - for warmth and cost are the Kinco Ski 
>>>> Mitt <https://kinco.com/901t>. They can be broken in so they aren't 
>>>> super dextrous, but as far as warmth goes, I've used them well into the 
>>>> negatives (-14 up to -20) and every other mitten breaks down at that 
>>>> point, 
>>>> especially cycling specific products.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:29:51 PM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've used an older version of these First Lite mittens 
>>>> <https://www.firstlite.com/products/grizzly-2-mitt.html?dwvar_grizzly-2-mitt_color=dry-earth&lang=en_US&quantity=1>
>>>>  
>>>> for hunting, and they also had enough feel to operate my cameras. 
>>>> Obviously, they are expensive. My version was much cheaper! But when 
>>>> working for hours in the Dakotas and Minnesota, they were perfect and well 
>>>> worth it. Wool still works when damp, and I sometimes used just the 
>>>> outside 
>>>> with different liners.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:43:27 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The trouble with those, besides being bulky looking, is our big 
>>>> temperature differentials. I can often leave at 9 am at 18*F and come back 
>>>> at 50*F. I daresay that if I were riding long periods at sub 20* I'd think 
>>>> differently.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:54 AM Wesley <brooks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, Bar Mitts brand neoprene pogies are so amazing that I would 
>>>> recommend just buying enough pairs that you can put them on each bike. Or 
>>>> swapping one pair between bikes as necessary (that can be complicated on 
>>>> the drop-bar version, depending on your cable routing). They are far 
>>>> beyond 
>>>> any gloves or mittens worn on the hands because they block the cold wind 
>>>> without being bulky or interfering with your handling the controls. I have 
>>>> fingers that are quite cold-sensitive, and I used Bar Mitts for seven 
>>>> years 
>>>> of commuting in Wisconsin winters. On the below-zero days I would only 
>>>> have 
>>>> to add a pair of minimalist knitted gloves (the kind they sell for 99 
>>>> cents 
>>>> at the supermarket checkout.) 
>>>>
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