I bought a pair of size Large Guide Gear leather mittens with light fleece
lining and inner wool mitten, sub $40. The wool mitten is thin, not at all
like the heavy, almost felted wool mittens with my first pair of OR
nylon/wool combo, but the OR combination was really too warm for my needs.
The leather is good quality and supple, the stitching looks good, and they
are labeled "waterproof." I daresay that the lining will wear but I wanted
these for the leather outer mitts which are large enough to wear over not
only the accompanying wool mittens but my lighter-weight lined leather
gloves (ex Bundeswehr!) and they will even fit over those little-used Pearl
Izumi size L lobster mitts I'm trying to sell without crowding the ends of
fingers or thumb.

I wish they covered more of my wrists but anything I wear under them will
be longer on the wrist.

Come to think of it, those very thick and dense OR wool under-mittens would
probably have served as well as these lined leather sheaths, but I expect
I'll prefer the leather for a better grip on the bar.

Those PI lobsters + OR nylon over mittens (no wool undermittens) + Finnish
army surplus gun mittens still FS: all now $70 shipped CONUS.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in
> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers
> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster
> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth.
>
> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled
> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward
> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake
> levers.
>
> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate
> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2
> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in
> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment
> sacrifices warmth.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives
> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or
> mittens that fit the bill?
>
> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can
> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this
> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off.
>
> Thanks.
>
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