I had that same thought, Bill. The big ring on my triples are always the least used.
"Unfortunately," my brank is a 110bcd with the Bikingreen 46/30 chainring set... machined from one piece of aluminum. But if a WI VBC crank pops up used, I'll make a dash for it! --Ben On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:21:33 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Ben > > You run a 46/30 with an 11-34 11sp cassette. If it were me, I'd > experiment with a 42-tooth big ring before going to a triple. 46x11 is > pretty darn high for a commuter/city bike. Anything higher than a 4:1 in > my book is for the sole purpose of pedaling at >>40mph. That is a real > use-case in hilly areas, but not for me, and especially not for a > commuter/city bike. That's just a suggestion. The jump from 42 to 30 is > much less dramatic. > > BL in EC > > On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I've been kind of triple-curious again. I live in a hilly part of L.A. My >> commuter/city bike has an 11-34 11s with a 46/30 front. I've been finding >> the 46 to 30 jump to feel pretty large. It feels much more dramatic than >> 50-34. For instance, if I switch big to small in the from, I'll sift down >> at least 3 cogs on the back to totally avoid spinning out immediately. I >> sometimes find myself mildly cross chaining in either direction to find the >> right gear. >> >> So I've been thinking of either going 1x, or 3x. My other bike is 1x, and >> it's a carbon all-road/gravel thing. I like the setup for rougher terrain. >> Also, I just don't like the idea of having duplicate bikes. I also >> romanticize the bike I had about 20 years go, which had an 11-27 9 speed >> with 24/36/46. At the time, it felt luxurious, natural, and easy. But I >> didn't know then what I know now, and many times when I've set up a modern >> bike like this one from my past, I get quickly disillusioned and undo that >> change. >> >> I kinda feel like the headline should be "triples: still fun and useful >> for hands on bike nerds who like to tinker." >> >> Ben >> >> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 10:44:06 AM UTC-8 captaincon...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> I dissent. Front derailers are unnecessarily complicated to setup, and >>> so are triple chainrings, especially on XD2s. I have 1X 10 one two bikes, >>> and love it, and I just specced a 1X 11 with a Deore 5100 derailer and >>> 11-51 cassette for my BMC Monstercross. The whole drivetrain cost less >>> than a nice triple crankset, it's all lighter too. Check out Analog Cycles >>> for inspiration. >>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> For years Grant/Rivendell argued against lots of gears in the rear >>>> because people didn't need to shift that much. The message was to push >>>> through if its too hard or even get off and push the bike up the hill. Now >>>> its shifting to a new argument...why not have those extra gears available. >>>> Honestly its all marketing to me. I like the simplicity of a 1x because I >>>> get the bulk of the gears I need with less maintenance. For me (personally >>>> mind you) the front derailer has always been the sketchiest part of the >>>> setup. Dropping chains, chain rub....its all a balancing act. I am happy >>>> to >>>> have that all go away with a sacrifice of the granny gear. I see what VO >>>> is >>>> saying and I think its probably a practical opinion but for me?? 1x just >>>> works. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a triple on just one bike (Soma Saga). My main problem is that >>>>> when I’m in the smallest chainring I am moving so slowly that it’s hard >>>>> to >>>>> stay upright. On the very steep inclines that necessitate the small cog, >>>>> I >>>>> find it easier to just get off and walk the bike up the hill (something >>>>> we >>>>> used to call a “24-inch gear”). >>>>> >>>>> --Eric Norris >>>>> campyo...@me.com >>>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy >>>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 9:20 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've been on half-step triples for over a decade, and never looked >>>>> back. >>>>> Many 30-mi rides never see a rear shift. >>>>> >>>>> <Capture.JPG> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 11:00:57 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For several years all my bikes have had triples, usually 46-32-20 on >>>>>> XT 737 cranks. For this current trip I took off the big ring because I >>>>>> rarely use it when touring with Cindy, or any of my solo riding, just >>>>>> when >>>>>> riding with the guys chasing them down hills. It does look a little >>>>>> ridiculous, with the front der way up in the air but so far its working >>>>>> out >>>>>> just fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven Sweedler >>>>>> Plymouth, New Hampshire >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:47 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> VO makes a good case for triples: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/velo-orange.com/triplesaregreatchangemymind?e=9c5efe5ba1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Simplicity and Effectiveness* While 1x systems boast simplicity, >>>>>>> the emphasis on constant shifting may be overstated. Many riders find >>>>>>> themselves primarily using the middle ring, operating as a 1x system >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> added flexibility to adapt to different terrain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The point that triples are usually used as 1Xs with low and high >>>>>>> ranges available is the key, I think. I know that, even with 10 or 11 >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> back, I'd not want a 1X, and even a 1X + granny (ie, very wide range >>>>>>> subcompact 2X) would leave me wanting easy-shifting gears for steep >>>>>>> rolling >>>>>>> offroad terrain (which I don't ride anymore), as I found when I swapped >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> a 3X7 for a 2X9 on my erstwhile Fargo. For road use including heavy >>>>>>> loads >>>>>>> and steep hills the 2X9 was easier to use and provided sufficient range >>>>>>> with close cruising steps, but I did miss the middle-ring range between >>>>>>> about 65" and 35" which comes with the middle ring on a 46/36/24 triple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>>>> writing services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsXL-XZ%2BiZzsBoQQ7Ne5ejQzbUJu97Pj3rJ8Cno4M-YVg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsXL-XZ%2BiZzsBoQQ7Ne5ejQzbUJu97Pj3rJ8Cno4M-YVg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8a0db1ed-36ab-49f7-acbb-86b050cd5e85n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8a0db1ed-36ab-49f7-acbb-86b050cd5e85n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> <Capture.JPG> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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