@Joel, You are more than welcome. I was very fortunate to find this very quill stem. I could not bring myself to go threadless, after over 40 years going used to quill stems. I am very slow to change, by the way. I am very happy with the The Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stem.
Kim Hetzel. On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Kim. I have only used Technomic stems because they were the longest available when I started with Riv in ‘97 or so. I think on my first road I used the shorter Technomic deluxe. On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 7:23 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: @Joel, The Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stemis very much different than that of the Nitto Technomic Tallux in that the NTC-280 stem's quill is a length of 11.02 inches, while the Tallux stem's quill length is shorter, 10.3 inches. This is where I bought mine: https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1 Kim Hetzel. On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 5:50:11 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: Kim, is this NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem the same as the Technomic? I never heard the NTC-280 part before. The Technomic is the old high stem I think Riv now calls the Tallux. On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: @John, >From you have spoken about more weight distribution further back on the rear wheel and the handlebars closer to the rider for a comfortable upright riding position, in my case with my 52cm Clem "L" bike, I have found myself very comfortable with more weight on the back wheel with a Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 seat post paired with a Brooks B-66S saddle. As far as getting the my Nitto Bosco bars higher and closer to me, I found a NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem to get me there. The stem is outrageously tall, yet it all works for me with everything around these long chain stays as a senior cyclist. Kim Hetzel. [image: 20240128_143701hhh0000nnnn.jpg] On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-8 John Johnson wrote: I have both normal and longish chainstay bikes in my house. I like the aesthetics of both, and they both feel "normal" (like Matt from Crust said) once you're riding. I know way less about bike handling and geometry than most of you, but one thing I assume that when you're riding in a more upright position, you want those long chainstays because your center of gravity is more aft than with a "traditional" bike position, where you are leaned a bit more forward on your hands and your weight is distributed more up front. It makes intuitive sense to me, and if you look at both Jones and Riv, the comfy upright position that they both aim for (albeit via different routes) involves getting the bars closer to you (high stack and short reach in the case of Jones, high handlebars in the case of Riv) and long chainstays. It would make sense that if the rider's weight is supposed to be farther back, the bike design should take this into account. -John On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 3:57:29 PM UTC+1 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the larger volume tires are definitely part of the ride quality equation. If they are “bouncy” the pressure is too high. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote: I'll chime in that while the very long (54cm?) chainstays on some of the frames introduce some storage concerns, they (the Platypus, for instance) ride very, very nicely. That said, I dislike the common (what, 41cm?) short chainstays far more than I dislike the extended variety. My chainstay sweet spot compromise may be more like 46cm, but I find myself drawn to even longer. What I haven't yet come to appreciate are large tires for road use, say, anything over 35mm. The longer chainstay bikes, to me, start to look nervous with narrower tires. I really like the looks of the Clem H, though. Maybe there's more learning for me to appreciate the wider, heavier, bouncier tread. But that's another topic. - Chris On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 8:30:45 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: Ian thinks "there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective." You are allowed to think whatever you like about me and my motives. Are you in the market for a new (to you) bike now? What is your build concept? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 4:02:18 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote: On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years ago do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves as PAWNS of the T&D IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date Industrial Complex! BL I feel like I understand where you're coming from in this thread and largely I don't disagree with much of what you're saying but I think there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective. Yes, I do have whatever the reverse of FOMO is when it comes to Riv bikes (Sad I Missed Out, SIMO?). 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